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Jw513 10-25-2007 12:05 AM

NL25 - Do you ever fold this on river?
 
Villain is 36/16/1.3 in about 30 hands. So not too big a sample yet.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($48.65)
UTG ($40.60)
MP ($63.65)
CO ($23)
Hero ($28.10)
SB ($29.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
3 folds</font>, Hero raises to $0.85</font>, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($1.95) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5</font>, SB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.95) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($4.95) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25</font>, SB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $6.75.

Final Pot: $24.95

I hit low straight on river, but backdoor flush hits also. Villain checks for the 3rd time. I bet and he raises. Now I'm like 90% sure this is some type of bluff. I don't think a king raises for value on the river here. I also rule out KK/JJ/1010 because no 3bet preflop.

Hows my line? Is this always a call a here? .. since we beat villain's range most of the time. I really think this is a bluff or a weird value raise with K10/KJ.

mystro 10-25-2007 12:31 AM

Re: NL25 - Do you ever fold this on river?
 
I have a lot of problems with these situations as well. I think I call here...
the pot odds are ~1:3 and I definetly think that you are beating a wide range here

I wouldn't worry too much about backdoor flush here personally, but someone can correct me.

Unless SB was setting some really rediculous and elaborate trap (turn check followed by a river check? I don't think so) I think more than anything he may say your bet as a bluff and decide to take it away from you with a weak K.

Thoughts?

Profish2285 10-25-2007 12:33 AM

Re: NL25 - Do you ever fold this on river?
 
Its a must call, I wouldnt shove though if thats what you were thinking.


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