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I think the optimal play is to bet/fold the river (how often is she checkraising without AA? Never; the pot is protected, Andy's "never folding," and given her read she isn't maniacal). But this might be a case where I wouldn't take the optimal play -- I might check behind because the emotional ownership of not letting a player get any bets in when they river a set is pretty awesome.

The absolute worse case scenario is you lose out on 1BB if she would have cry-called a river bet. I don't see any cases where you miss out on 2BBs by checking.

In a vacuum I agree that the flop looks spewy, but I trust that you knew what you were doing.

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"the flop looks spewy, but I trust that you knew what you were doing.

The key is to get to know people and trust them to be who they are. Instead, we trust people to be who we want them to be- and when they're not, we cry.

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I always liked you, no matter what anybody else says.

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I remember when the biggest game in a 35 table club was 15-30 lowball with only two betting rounds. Then again, I used to date Benjamin Franklin's great-aunt. Zee was seeing her older sister.

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"did you really gulp, blink, frown & grimace?"

No, I gulped, blinked, grimaced and frowned. I changed the order for literary reasons.

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Agree with PJ though in practice nobody bet/folds here even though calling a checkraise is just lighting around $119 on fire.

-DeathDonkey

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"the flop looks spewy, but I trust that you knew what you were doing.

The key is to get to know people and trust them to be who they are. Instead, we trust people to be who we want them to be- and when they're not, we cry.

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This is fabulous quote Andy.

However, people are being way to nice to you about the flop play....

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I agree. Two bets--at least--too many.

People are nice to me on this forum. Thank goodness David doesn't visit here any more.

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Andy,

It looks like you let her get you into a dick measuring contest on the flop and hers was bigger. After all, this is the commerce. You said we weren't being hard enough on you so let me pound a little. You are a nit. I know this since you are one of the few players tighter than me and I am a nit. Getting to go 480345025 bets on the flop with an overpair is a fun experience if you are mike, or chris, or HOWMANY. Guys like you and me don't get to do that unless someone is really on tilt or we have the nuts. BTW, just in case you forgot, you didn't have an overpair. As far as your turn play goes that was super duper expert. Well done. Now squeeze one more in on the river. People saying she won't pay of with KK or QQ may be right but there is only one way to find out. If you get checkraised you are on your own. I won't be providing valuesweat anymore since when I do the river always bricks.

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Not only was hers bigger but the last time I was in such a contest was the Johnson admninstration. Andrew Johnson. It doesn't befit me.

Don't forget, though, of all the underpairs, I had the best one. Especially on the turn.

I can't wait to see the reactions when I post what I did on the river. Why can't you guys all be nice, like Josh?