Chasing a draw early on
 

Would love to get some thoughts on the following play. "Deep-stack" tournament at a local casino. At the second level, blinds are 50-100. I have about what I started with (8000). I have been involved in a few pots and have made several lay-downs. Not sure of my image although I think I come off as pretty tight. The table is quite tough with a number of tournament regulars. Gets folded around to me at the cut-off and I raise to 400 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Button calls. Button is very straightforward and playing tight. He has me covered by about 3000 chips.

The flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I lead out with a bet of 600.

Button raises to 1600

I call.

Turn comes 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, button bets 1600. I put him on a bigger ace, maybe a set but unlikely. I think for while, do the math and determine that I am getting very close to the right price to call and do so.

I would appreciate any comments on any aspect of this hand, from pre-flop on.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

Fold pre flop. As played i like the line right up until the turn, then just fold fold fold. It is far too early in the tournament to be risking chips with a FD here, you'll find yourself in better spots down the line.

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

Reraise all in or fold on flop. 40% chance of hitting flush + fold equity makes this > calling with 1/3 of your stack, no?

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

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Reraise all in or fold on flop. 40% chance of hitting flush + fold equity makes this > calling with 1/3 of your stack, no?

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mehh.. i think its more like 36%..

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

Like 36% of villian has ak and 25% is villian has a set. still fold or all in to gamboool. Could this be +ev with FE?

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

By the turn, you have already commited a quarter of your stack, calling is obv. a total spew. IMO i think i would be c/folding here. OTOH, everyone like a CRAI semi bluff form time to time. against a tight player though, i dont think this would be the best idea. i've just spent the last 8 hours talking to accountants, my head is fried.

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

Thanks so much for the replies. Question: why is a call on the turn a spew? Its 1600 into an almost 6000 chip pot. I would have folded to a bet that was even half the pot on the turn but the bet was less than that.

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

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pennypacker

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do you have scabies?

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

Its a Seinfeld reference. My ususal screen name, Avandelay, was taken. For Seinfeld fans, Pennypacker, a wealthy industrialist, is an identity assumed by Kramer.

Re: Chasing a draw early on
 

fold at this point because you are out of position and have no way to get paid if you peel off a club. what are you going to do donk pot after bet-call/check-call?