BonusWhores.com not allowing visitors from 10 US states now!
 

Link to Affilates/Rackback forum post.

This is really getting dumb. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I lied to them and got into the site.

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are they checking IPS or something?

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are they checking IPS or something?

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Yes, although our system is certainly not 100% accurate, thus we have to ask if we're accurate or not. It's kind of like porn sites asking if you're 18 or not.

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are they checking IPS or something?

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Yeah. I got a notice that they detected that I was from Wisconsin via my IP address and I had the option of confirming or denying that fact. If I were to confirm it, I wouldn't be able to view BW. I lied and denyed and was able to get in.

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Jek,

What states does this concern?

Thanks

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What states does this concern?

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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.

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Why are you doing this?

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?



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the boogey man

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Why

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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so do you think 2p2 is next? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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http://www.bonuswhores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24667
[quote="jek187"][quote="jhess888"]I was reading on 2 + 2 that people from certain states are banned from this site. Is this true and if so which states and why are they banned?

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We aren't banning anybody. We are checking IPs of people who view the site, and if we detect they're from a state where online poker is illegal, we ask them if our IP checking is accurate.

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Why

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There have been casino affiliates arrested in FL. I also heard of an affiliate in WA that got a cease and desist letter from some DA. I don't think it's unreasonable for BW to take some precaution.

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I'm getting an ill feeling for the direction this country is heading.

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I'm getting an ill feeling for the direction this country is heading.

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I've been getting that for over a year now, but you are right its getting to the extreme now, and no not just because of this gambling bill (there were other unbelievable bills that were also passed that week).

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What the hell??? Hmmm......2+2 (and others) gonna follow?

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Why

[/ QUOTE ]Because there is a difference between the constitution and reality.

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I'm getting an ill feeling for the direction this country is heading.

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I've been getting that for over a year now, but you are right its getting to the extreme now, and no not just because of this gambling bill (there were other unbelievable bills that were also passed that week).

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I've been getting that feeling for over 20 years now, and that's only because I'm not old enough to have gotten the feeling for the last 150. Just as one example, the War On some Drugs has been far worse than anything passed this year.

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.

So if even 1% are useful.....

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Wake up, you fools! It's time! It's time to start burning the evil gambling books! Freedom of information takes you away from jesus like those god damn Euro trash, curse on them.

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Wake up, you fools! It's time! It's time to start burning the evil gambling books! Freedom of information takes you away from jesus like those god damn Euro trash, curse on them.

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Yes the People's Republic of the United States will ensure harmony and safety for its citizens


Greetings comrades!

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Why

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There have been casino affiliates arrested in FL. I also heard of an affiliate in WA that got a cease and desist letter from some DA. I don't think it's unreasonable for BW to take some precaution.

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Maybe I am not understanding the semantics of it: but isn't it a little redundant to ask someone to cease AND desist?

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Look the US is pretty busy bringing freedom to other countries,... we can forgive them for outlawing weeds and online poker at home. We can't just give freedom to just anybody. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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You have to take something away from some people to give something to other people. (freedom that is...)

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We have freed 600,000 Iraqis of their lives.

Who wants to be freed next?

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In the strategery forums we call this MUBS.

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We have freed 600,000 Iraqis of their lives.

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Wonder if they can play poker in heaven. 70 virgins maybe? Poker, not if the U.S. government reaches that far? They probably think they do.

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.

So if even 1% are useful.....

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Referring to the affiliate sites being constitutionally protected not pipe bombs. My point was these states have laws against poker sites and affiliates and anyone in general who links to poker rooms. Its constitiutionally protected to TALK about illegal activities, not to link to where to buy them.

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So how hard is it to have your affiliate site read:

"Join FNFRISTPOKER DOT COM and use sign up code 'mysitename' for a $X bonus, sorry but you have to type it... links are banned."

and still get affiliate credit without having a "link"??

It's just links right?

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It's perfectly legal for Americans to be affiliates of poker sites. The prosecutor would have to prove you are specifically targeting Americans with your advertising. The internet is global, it's legal to put up a site and make money sending Europeans or Canadians to poker sites. And since your innocent until proven guilty they would have to prove your intent was to promote illegal gambling in the US.

The only affiliates ever prosecuted did stuff like put flyers on car windshields or some other crap offline.

If I'm wrong tell me cause I'd like to cover my own ass, but I'm pretty sure I'm safe.

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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.

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fer f##k's sake, Why?

Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?

Seriously. I'd really like to see it, and as a lawyer I have some ability to discern whether it is constitutional.

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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.

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fer f##k's sake, Why?

Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?

Seriously. I'd really like to see it, and as a lawyer I have some ability to discern whether it is constitutional.

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this is just a way for them to wash their hands , just like porno sites do when they ask for your age...no big deal...

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It's perfectly legal for Americans to be affiliates of poker sites.

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Im telling you its not perfectly legal, in WA state for example it is a C class felony and at least one site has gotten shut down that resided in WA. Now of course they cant shut down an out of state site but as early June it has been illegal in WA. Constitutionally you could give an argument I suppose(I dont remember the right to affiliate with gambling venues as a constitutional right but w/e) but it is explicitly illegal in WA and FWIU the other states listed as well.

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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.

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Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?


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WA state RCW 9.46.240

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Why are you doing this?

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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.

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protecting themselves from what exactly?

It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?

Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.

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You would be wrong

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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.

So if even 1% are useful.....

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It is not against the law to talk about illegal activity. It against the law to promote it. Affiliates are not merely talking about illegal activities so BW's response is perfectly reasonable seeing as they are the ones potentially put in legal jeapordy.

You pipe bomb analogy found all those sites that discuss pipe bombs, but if there was a USA site promoting pipe bomb construction and making a profit off that promotion, it would not last very long.

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BW has sign up links to all the sites listed there. Therefore, they are "aiding and abetting" the poker sites in acquiring customers.