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StrictlyStrategy 10-18-2007 07:08 PM

Teach me not to suck
 
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Sushiglutton 10-18-2007 07:14 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
Teach me not to suck

First u need to use a proper converter

euroglot 10-18-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
Is think I'll still call here. He could be tryin for a freecard play with a flushdraw or like 9Q or so, and thought he could bluff you out of the pot on the turn. I don't know how agressive/passive he is but...
I think I'll call an agressive player and fold to a passive player.

One Outer 10-18-2007 07:49 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
I'm going to say fold because you're not beating anything but I know I'm going to be crucified for it. Whatever, I'm still folding.

DeuceKicker 10-18-2007 08:02 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
A read would really, really help.

James. 10-18-2007 08:10 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
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A read would really, really help.

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i would normally say that playing poker against an unknown is part of the game. these days there's really no reason for it online. you should really datamine a game before you play it.

Ricks 10-18-2007 08:17 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
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you should really datamine a game before you play it.

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Stars takes a dim view of this, James.

James. 10-18-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
given a typical EP limper range and that very coordinated flop, i don't think i want 3bets going in with 2 cards to come.

i would bet/call the flop and donk the turn. if he raises i would call and c/f or c/c the river UI depending on what i know about villain.

Mitke 10-19-2007 01:37 AM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
You only beat A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and it probably is not in his limping range from EP. You lose to every pp from AA-66 (bar QQ). I suspect a capped flop with KQ is not very likely either.

Fold on the river.

That flop is awful. Only Js really help you and only non-[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] rags smaller than 6 are relatively harmless.

So, put money in now on the flop when we still might be ahead or wait for safe turn card before getting aggressive? I think James' line is good.

You did get past 98,97,87 on the river though so maybe you have reason to call - maybe.

Xhad 10-19-2007 06:35 AM

Re: Teach me not to suck
 
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I'm going to say fold because you're not beating anything but I know I'm going to be crucified for it. Whatever, I'm still folding.

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Agree, you only beat flopped bottom two pair that decided to bluff the river anyway.


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