100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

im runnin 15/8/3 like usual (fairly aggro, but nothing excessive postflop). PFraiser is 18/14/2 over 200 hands...not a bad player, very positionally aware, and will pressure often. BB is 25/10/3 over 300 hands...i havnt seen this donk before from him.

i didnt 3b pf because i had just 4b PFraiser a few hands earllier, and didnt want to give him chance to 4b it (which i felt was coming because he was gettin faster, and i wasnt sure if AQ was good against his 4b range as it hadnt happend yet and there is a huge difference between 3 and 4b ranges).

what line are you taking?



Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $108.25
SB: $63.05
BB: $148.60
UTG: $165.25
UTG+1: $77.15
MP1: $185.45
MP2: $51.20
CO: $153.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50, SB folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($11) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $5</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $15</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

Sometimes I shove to make it look like I just have the ace of clubs. Here though I'd almost be tempted to slowplay and just call, because you might get lucky and BB shoves, CO calls, and you get it in with the nuts in a 3-way pot. Obviously shove any non-pairing turn.

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

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Sometimes I shove to make it look like I just have the ace of clubs. Here though I'd almost be tempted to slowplay and just call, because you might get lucky and BB shoves, CO calls, and you get it in with the nuts in a 3-way pot. Obviously shove any non-pairing turn.

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as an aside...say we do call, and the board pairs 7, and BB comes out 2/3PSB, CO folds...u ???

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

Reraise preflop, usually.

I'm always pissed off when some dope (in this case BB) makes me reveal the super strength of my hand. Tank-call for vizer's reasons. I still get in if the board pairs.

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

I would still shove. BB would surely reraise preflop with a set or 7,8 after donking into the PFR. If the board paired and CO 2/3 PSB's then I'd fold. If it was checked around to you I would bet/fold(to only the CO).

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

i would call, but this is a pretty crappy spot and no option works great.

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

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i would call, but this is a pretty crappy spot and no option works great.

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QFT.. really freaking annoying.. especially when they are short. A call behind says.. wow i am super strong, a re-raise says wow i am super strong. I would normally call, but i am tempted to just push actually thinking about it.

Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

I think I'm raising the flop to $45 or so, mostly because it simpler. I realize that line of reasoning might preclude a lot of value, but isn't it true that a lot of turn cards will kill the action (clubs) or make us uncomfortable (pair the board)? With two opponents, and both showing interest, I think I go ahead and make a move now.

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i would call, but this is a pretty crappy spot and no option works great.

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QFT.. really freaking annoying.. especially when they are short. A call behind says.. wow i am super strong, a re-raise says wow i am super strong. I would normally call, but i am tempted to just push actually thinking about it.

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Re: 100NL - Flop Nuts - Line?
 

vecer, shoving is way better than a committing reraise here.