What street do i give up?
 

Villain is unknown but clearly not great, how is this so far? If he calls turn raise, a river shove will be ~ a psb. Obv timing tells will be a factor but let's assume he thinks for a little while but doesn't tank for ages.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($224.08)
SB ($432.70)
BB ($143.44)
UTG ($400)
Hero ($412.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $14, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($36) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, SB calls $32.

Turn: ($108) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $86?

Re: What street do i give up?
 

you think hes folding AdXd to a rivershove?

Re: What street do i give up?
 

I'd give up on the turn, he isn't folding an ace. He could be donk/folding a J, but he might not even fold that. Flop raise is standard though.

Re: What street do i give up?
 

so anyone like firing the turn here?

Re: What street do i give up?
 

in my experience you have to shove river here(if you raise turn) as he rarely folds turn but "sometimes" folds river. I dunno, I prob just call turn though as it's hard to know if he folds his pair even on the river. Hopefully you get some help on the river

Re: What street do i give up?
 

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so anyone like firing the turn here?

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not me, I would if it was a J high flop and the A hit the turn though

Re: What street do i give up?
 

no they never fold after they mindonk again and sometimes they mindonk/threebet [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: What street do i give up?
 

just call call and fold river if you don't improve

Re: What street do i give up?
 

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I'd give up on the turn, he isn't folding an ace. He could be donk/folding a J, but he might not even fold that. Flop raise is standard though.

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I agree i think this player with way he is donk betting into you wont let go of any ace.I know if we call its like saying we have nada but anything else seems to be a waste imo in the spot against this type

Re: What street do i give up?
 

these spots tilt the [censored] outta me cause i always do the same thing and they cal down with a2. I would give up after the flop. but I would call the turn obv. You have immediate odds to hit ur gut shot plus you can value town the [censored] out of him when you do hit it