4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

I'll probably blog about this later, dunno. For the time being I'll just post a few hands vs this opponent and let y'all decide.


******* Hand 1 ********

Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.6SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.3BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.3BB
Hero Shows A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 mucks A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]


******* Hand 2 ********

Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.6SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.8BB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.8BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13.8BB
BB Shows 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


******* Hand 3 ********

Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB
UTG+1 Shows 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero Shows 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

...

Limit: $5/$10
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.6SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.3BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.3BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.3BB
Villain shows 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

After reading those, and drawing whatever conclusions you might, his stats were 47/18/.9/.75/1.5 with a WtSD of 39, not converged yet, over a sample of 125 hands. There have been a few times where I raised preflop only to checkfold the turn on boards like A67x (he bet T8s).


Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.6SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.3BB, 2 players)
Hero...

Re: 3 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

on the last hand... unlike the A2s hand, he didn't raise preflop, which after seeing that hand I'd expect a raise from a lot of Ax hands preflop. He also called down with bottom pair on the previous hand, like he seems to be doing here. I think this is an obvious bet for value.

If raised... hmm... I'd call. He seems too tricky and I'd definitely look him up.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

I guess I would bet/fold, since he seems capable of calling with a great many hands that are beaten here, and based on teh flush draw hand, i would have expected him to raise w/ an Ace before now.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

Hand 1: It's strange that he only called on that flop. I would expect a guy this aggressive to raise you there with a draw (QJ or KJ.) I'm not sure how he plays trips, but I think he might just raise them on this flop as well. I'm not sure that that leaves except maybe a hand like yours or a lower pp. Given that, the turn seems fine, although he might just check through a lower pp (which is fine since he has 2 outs and might call on the river because he's confused.)

Hand 2: Just called pre-flop + flop donk bet = flush draw/OESD a lot, even though I know the results. Usually they only call on the flop after getting raised. I'm surprised this is still used at 5/10 though because I think it's a really clueless move. With the other player padding on the end I guess you can call for sanity reasons, but his line is the essential "I don't know how to play flush draws" line.

Hand 3: I play it the same. The LRR is either total junk or QQ+ right, so it's WA/WB unless he has something like AK. I always seem to be WB in this spot though.

Hand 4: Standard. He doesn't have the flush draw because he didn't donk. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I wonder if he donk bets his top pair as well.

Hand 5: Given the way this guy plays flush draws I'm inclined to bet for value here and get called by a J.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

the screwplay in hand 1 (AK spikes A on turn) gives me a raging chubby.

i would hate folding to a river raise given his erratic behavior, but we haven't seen him bluff-raise the river either, so i don't think b/c is a good plan. he has, however, shown that he loves to bluff, so c/c looks perfect.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

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Hand 1: It's strange that he only called on that flop. I would expect a guy this aggressive to raise you there with a draw (QJ or KJ.) I'm not sure how he plays trips, but I think he might just raise them on this flop as well. I'm not sure that that leaves except maybe a hand like yours or a lower pp. Given that, the turn seems fine, although he might just check through a lower pp (which is fine since he has 2 outs and might call on the river because he's confused.)

Hand 2: Just called pre-flop + flop donk bet = flush draw/OESD a lot, even though I know the results. Usually they only call on the flop after getting raised. I'm surprised this is still used at 5/10 though because I think it's a really clueless move. With the other player padding on the end I guess you can call for sanity reasons, but his line is the essential "I don't know how to play flush draws" line.

Hand 3: I play it the same. The LRR is either total junk or QQ+ right, so it's WA/WB unless he has something like AK. I always seem to be WB in this spot though.

Hand 4: Standard. He doesn't have the flush draw because he didn't donk. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I wonder if he donk bets his top pair as well.

Hand 5: Given the way this guy plays flush draws I'm inclined to bet for value here and get called by a J.

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Thanks for the comments; I was posting those hands just to let you know how he plays, though. The 99 hand I would've checkraised most turn cards vs. him and called down had he happened to 3bet. I just wanted to include more than stats so people got an idea for his handrange(s) a little bit more directly, so that you could form your own read/opinion rather than just doing the chowmeow 46/20 sort of thing.

Rob

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

I either bet or check-raise. I probably just bet because I'm not sexy enough. I think he finds his way to bet-calling a J and maybe even a 3. He would likely have semibluffed a flush draw, so he's on some sort of weak made hand. I don't know if he's disciplined enough to check behind.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

I think checking the turn in the last hand has merit. You've check folded some hands on the turn vs. him before, and he really seems like a huge donkey with no idea how to play vs. defensive checks.

Either way, given your turn bet, I think you should go ahead and value bet him on the river. Even though he's a tard, I think you have a very marginal decision if he raises you.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

Can you elaborate on the screwplay in the first hand? It is my opinion after a year of 5/10 that it's not a good play.

Re: 4 hands from an opponent, followed by a river decision...
 

errrrr

i think you have to b/c, i dont want to risk a c/r/c tho maybe it wouldnt be too bad

hand 3 is less than optimal... just cap it preflop and bet any flop

the rest are all pretty standard