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Hass 10-23-2007 09:32 PM

2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
CAZ 20/40. These are pretty standard and boring, comments on all streets welcome.

Villan is unknown.

Hero opens sb with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Villan calls.

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Bet, call.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Check, check.

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets.
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Villan is an action junky, and I love him in the game, as does everone else.

I open K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in sb, villan calls.

flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Bet, call.

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Bet, call.

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero?

NinaWilliams 10-23-2007 09:42 PM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
hand 1 looks good on the river, but I bet the turn. Hand 2 is an easy c/c. I could see him getting to the river with a gs then deciding to bluff it. He might even bet some of the hands youre hoping to get value from with a bet.

jkamowitz 10-23-2007 09:55 PM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
Hand one you must've posted wrong, either you have a flush or a pair of 7's.

private joker 10-23-2007 09:57 PM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand one you must've posted wrong, either you have a flush or a pair of 7's.

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Yeah, and also -- if you're opening with 74, are there any hands at all you're folding or limping PF? Or is your PFR 100 from the SB in these situations?

brick 10-23-2007 10:31 PM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
I played the Casino AZ 20 game last month. Given that it's a collection game I wouldn't chop either.

The game didn't seem that easy when I was there. Playing tight seems to be in fashion there. Not much cold-calling and bluffing. Limping big pairs etc.

I'm an ok player I would probably only have a very small win rate there. Variance would be huge.

The easy money in poker comes from players who put in too many bets not those that play too tight.

I here is gets better in the winter so good luck to you.

Hass 10-23-2007 11:07 PM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
Hand one was a 3 of diamond on the turn. Sorry

Nate. 10-24-2007 12:16 AM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
Hass--

I'd bet the turn in hand 1. People will peel so loose that it'll be profitable. Of course they'll also peel the turn loosely, but they'll fold more than enough to make it worth your while.

I like the river bet in hand 1. You'll see a lot of inexplicable check-behinds, and you'll also get two-plus bets in against the payoff hands reasonably often.

I like hand 2 very much. All the streets are standard for the same reason: Villain is just enormously likely to have total garbage.

--Nate

bakku 10-24-2007 03:59 AM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
i bet the turn in hand 1 as well. A high probably isn't folding but people will peel the flop with all sorts of crap that they'll fold on the turn

cgrohman 10-24-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
Hand 1 is fine but Id probably bet the turn thinking I have a fd, gs, and pair cards to win.

Hand 2: Just check the river. I can;t think of a hand that you are beating that calls unless he thinks you are an extreme lagtard.

emerson 10-25-2007 12:09 AM

Re: 2 Sb vs. Bb. Standard and Boring.
 
[ QUOTE ]
CAZ 20/40. These are pretty standard and boring, comments on all streets welcome.

Villan is unknown.

Hero opens sb with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Villan calls.

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Bet, call.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Check, check.

River: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets.
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Villan is an action junky, and I love him in the game, as does everone else.

I open K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in sb, villan calls.

flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Bet, call.

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Bet, call.

River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero?

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I like hand 1. I check the turn about 40% here also, going for a check raise to buy free cards on future hands.

Hand 2, either check call or bet fold. If he is an action junkie I like checking to try to induce a bluff. In either case, it is one bet only on the river.


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