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giverofbadbeats 11-06-2007 04:45 PM

10/20 disgusting river spot
 
i have only been at the table for 15 minutes, don't have a read on opponent. he has been very aggressive, but none of his hands have gone to showdown so i can't say whether he is maniacal.

EDIT: I HAVE [Kc Ah]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

<font color="#C00000">MP (Villain) ($2117)</font>
CO ($2072)
Button ($2000)
<font color="#C00000">SB (Hero) ($2207)</font>
BB ($5464)
UTG ($1717)

Preflop:
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (Villain) calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $20, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (Villain) raises to $258</font>, Button folds, SB calls $158.

Flop: ($556) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks.

Turn: ($556) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $325</font>, SB calls $325.

River: ($1206) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villain bets $1534 (All-In)</font>, Hero?????

feel free to criticize my line here. i realize river check put me in this spot. i figure at this point he either has a boat or nothing. is this an instacall, or is it a fold? i will post results after hearing your thoughts.

yellowsub 11-06-2007 04:46 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
lol wtf do u have

AcidKnight 11-06-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
I'm trying to think of a hand other than AK or a set of 8s or 9s that makes sense here and I'm not coming up with much. Maybe he's got KK?

It's gotta be AK.

imabigdeal 11-06-2007 06:06 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
hmm well i doubt he's limp 3betting pf with 88 or 99... meanwhile whats up w that tiny rereaise... i guess QQ is a possibility but i think you're looking at KK or AK a lot here, so i'd call

bamboo6386 11-06-2007 06:39 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
does anyone think he could have 10Js here?

AAismyfriend 11-06-2007 06:41 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
If I had to guess, you're either chopping or he has AQ. I'd call this pretty much always too fwiw.

yang211 11-06-2007 06:52 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
i wouldn't put him on 88 or 99 because i'm sure he would have just called your raise PF. i don't put him on QQ because of the mini raise, seems like he sure wants action. if i had QQ i would raise way more to get you off the hand before the flop incase a A comes. most likeable hand here is an AK or he is just continuation bluffin

bamboo6386 11-06-2007 06:53 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
It's hard to construct a range when you know absolutely nothing about the player.

he most likely has AK

or AQ? I could see someone playing AQ like this. I think KK would be less likely then J10 or AQ. A set could play like this if he's real tricky type.

Unless he's a really crazy player, who would shove all in with KK in this spot and turn it into a bluff, when it has showdown value?

so AK &gt; J10,AQ,88,99,QQ &gt; KK, 1010, JJ &gt; AJs(?) &gt; air?

AK is a chop.
most of these hands you are behind.

if this guy is a huge maniac I'd call.

given info. I'd fold

yang211 11-06-2007 06:53 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
oh u have AK? i would insta-call

AcidKnight 11-06-2007 07:03 PM

Re: 10/20 disgusting river spot
 
You're chopping with a small part of his range, losing to most of the rest and beating a bluff (or KK/whatever he turned into a bluff).

I'd fold


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