Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

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Button ($479.20)
SB ($389.50)
BB ($208.20)
UTG ($616.70)
Hero ($591.95)
CO ($362.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, BB calls $24.

Turn: ($82) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($82) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $168.2 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???

Villian is really donkish

My notes on him: "donk - Bluffed with a hand with showdown value in position on river ?!."

And his stats are 48/12/1.0 over 120 hands cc is 6.7%

And river was a insta shove.

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

bet/fold the turn.

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

i fold here without thinking too much

consider your pot odds....

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

Fold this river. Bet/fold the turn always against this villain.

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

btw when I say donk I mean donk. He is just really erratic and bets for unknown reason.

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

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Fold this river. Bet/fold the turn always against this villain.

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Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

Turn is good. Instafold the river.. that's donkspeak for "I have 9T" or "I have a J and I think that's the nuts because I'm stupid".

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

Would he bluff a busted FD here?

If you had seen him do something similar as a bluff before I think it could be possible to call, but this river overbet is really fishy. I fold and don't think too much about it

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

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Turn is good. Instafold the river.. that's donkspeak for "I have 9T" or "I have a J and I think that's the nuts because I'm stupid".

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Why are we checking the turn again? On this board it seems like a donkish villain can have all sorts of hands that don't include a 9 but might call one more street.

Re: Call river shove? QQ overpair to scary board
 

Because villain is not very aggro I feel betting the turn is the best play by far. There are many hands in this range that we beat and that he's likely calling a bet on the turn with. JJ, TT, 7x, 8x, any T, probably any 6 and fewer hands that beats us. Since he's passive we also do not risk folding the best hand to a turn raise as he will almost never bluff in this spot, and when we check behind he will not bluff a weaker hand on the river that would otherwise had folded to our turn bet.