$16 mucking QQ first hand
 

Hey. Villain is unknown. Raise utg/shove over my re-raise looks pretty damn strong. Can I fold here?

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UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t280, <font color="red">UTG raises to t1500 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero ???

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

Against an unknown you have to get it in here. You've already committed 20% of your stack after the 3bet.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

Against an unknown i think you are pot-committed although not necessarily ahead.

About 2100 in the pot already, and 1200 for you to call. I think your equity here is enough to call with these odds.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

I call here and I'm very happy about it.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

First hand vs. unknown? No.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

ok replace villain with a good 2+2er, what then?

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

A good 2p2er is much closer. He likely knows you are a tight player, and that you are not reraising light here at all. I don't know your exact reraising range, but maybe its like JJ-AA and AK, and he still popped you all in. His range is essentially QQ-AA and AK.

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 19042240 923339.00 { QhQs }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 28767898 923339.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

With pot odds we would still call here, but i think he might flat call you with AK a certain % of the time (he knows you are reraising tight), and i think this is a fold. His range is probably QQ-AA and AK, but with the AK underrepresented. I think this is a fold.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

Why 3-bet if you're not going to call a shove?

When I'm not sure if I want to play for my whole stack vs. UTG raiser I flat call and see what he does with his betting.

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

ITs super fast call.

If it had been another person with no chips in the hand that you knew was SUPER tight level one i would at least think about it.

AS it was raiser that pushed its instant call.

(edit) ive seen countless times a tight player pop often with AK here in that situation and your 16 tabling 16s for gods sake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] gamboool

Re: $16 mucking QQ first hand
 

lol I was actually only 9 tabling (was kinda tired and didn't want to overexert myself by playing 12)...

I am thinking an avg player's reshove range here is like AQs (maybe since BB flatted he shoves wider than normal), AK, JJ+. Maybe I overthought this one b/c a few days ago there was a post about mucking QQ early.

JJ is a fold in this spot if re-raised to 300 pre?