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davebreal 11-01-2007 09:13 PM

**********November Low Content**************
 
off to a good low content start!

$2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
FullTiltPoker
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$457.35</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$717.65</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$355.10</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$1087.75</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$242.85</font>)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is UTG 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font> ($445.35), CO calls $12 ($705.65), <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, BB calls $8 ($230.85)

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($38, 3 players)
BB checks ($230.85), <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font> ($425.35), CO calls $20 ($685.65), <font color="#777777">BB folds</font> ($230.85)

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($78, 2 players)
Hero checks ($425.35), <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $75</font> ($610.65), <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $204</font> ($221.35), <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $333</font> ($277.65), <font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $425.35</font> ($0.00), CO calls $92.35 ($260.30)

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($928.7, 2 players)

Final Pot: $928.70
Hero shows: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero wins $925.7 ( won +$468.35 )
BB lost -$12.00
CO lost -$457.35

GaZaZaZa 11-01-2007 09:20 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
i just wish one that i get one of those hands... the last three times i was in a hand of top full against quads i was on the other end of it :-((((((

SlowCheetah 11-01-2007 10:32 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Yay for the new heads up tables on Full Tilt

MattS 11-01-2007 11:29 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Perfect coinflip on turn.


GAME #707188222: Omaha Hi-Lo PL $1.00/$2.00

Seat 1: Hero ($198.80 in chips) DEALER
Seat 5: Dhanwanthari ($203.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Tsaijaijaijaijai ($707.88 in chips)

Dhanwanthari: Post SB $1.00
Tsaijaijaijaijai: Post BB $2.00

Dealt to Tsaijaijaijaijai: [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J
Dealt to Hero: [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J

Hero: Raise $6.00
Dhanwanthari: Fold
Tsaijaijaijaijai: Call $4.00

*** FLOP *** [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2

Tsaijaijaijaijai: Check
Hero: Bet $10.00
Tsaijaijaijaijai: Call $10.00

*** TURN *** [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K

Tsaijaijaijaijai: Check
Hero: Bet $24.00
Tsaijaijaijaijai: Raise $105.00
Hero: Allin $158.80
Tsaijaijaijaijai: Call $77.80

*** RIVER *** [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6

davebreal 11-01-2007 11:52 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
Perfect coinflip on turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

you should have run it at least twice, obviously.

franknagaijr 11-02-2007 01:25 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
I remember the good old days, back when 'low content' really meant something.

predator06 11-02-2007 11:11 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yay for the new heads up tables on Full Tilt

[/ QUOTE ]

Boo for it only being heads up PL and not NL too. If they don't change that in the next month I expect to spend my Ironman medals on a heads up NL $5/$10 table named accordingly as "predators rathole"

davebreal 11-02-2007 12:42 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yay for the new heads up tables on Full Tilt

[/ QUOTE ]

Boo for it only being heads up PL and not NL too. If they don't change that in the next month I expect to spend my Ironman medals on a heads up NL $5/$10 table named accordingly as "predators rathole"

[/ QUOTE ]

why would you expect this to change without sending an email to support?

i'm the one responsible for the "fast" tables and 6max on Stars... although I often regret it now.

i like having the HU tables around... people can finally realize i'm there to start up new full ring games.

donger 11-02-2007 01:47 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Stars fast tables suck so hard! There's no timer to let you know how long you have left AND it open folds when you run out of time instead of just checking. WTFFFF

Also, why the hell does everybody's name have to blink when they have action? This is so annoying. Four-tabling, your monitor looks like downtown Tokyo

Stars has the worst software. ARRgh.

davebreal 11-02-2007 02:01 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
it open folds when you run out of time instead of just checking

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah, that is pretty awful. for some reason the LO8 tables seem much faster than the PLO8 tables on Stars... but I could just be delusional.

anyways, we could try to rally up an email horde to get the default action to be "check" or at least "sitting out", which is what full tilt has.

franknagaijr 11-02-2007 04:25 PM

LC Response to a content-thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
you'll get
a call from the complete loser and help sustain your
loss...

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP:

A call from the complete loser and &lt;B&gt;ameliorate&lt;/b&gt; your loss.

davebreal 11-02-2007 07:27 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
FullTiltPoker $30/$60 O8
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$2876.00</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$642.00</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$620.50</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$4284.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$1017.50</font>)

Pre-flop: ($45, 5 players) Hero is BTN 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, SB calls $45, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($150, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($210, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($210, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $210
Hero shows: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero wins $207 ( won +$117 )
SB lost -$90.00

Truthiness24 11-02-2007 11:31 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
"predators rathole"

[/ QUOTE ]

FTW

m bozeman 11-03-2007 12:05 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
I've been on fire playing NL holdem for the last month or so, so I am giving omaha a break. However, I did play a short session today, and had one nice pot finally. Been getting burned in NL omaha8, so gonna stick with PL for a while when I do play.

PokerStars Game #13006729955: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/02 - 23:52:39 (ET)
Table 'Alrami III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Raakile ($475.50 in chips)
Seat 2: magicmike ($425.55 in chips)
Seat 3: K G B ($224.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Baba Fats ($229.35 in chips)
Seat 6: Shadaii ($627.90 in chips)
Seat 7: NECTAR29 ($480.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Kid_Tapang ($336.45 in chips)
Seat 9: daviddodds ($1025.95 in chips)
K G B: posts small blind $2
Baba Fats: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [3d 7h Ac 8c]
Shadaii: folds
NECTAR29: raises $10 to $14
Kid_Tapang: folds
daviddodds: folds
Raakile: folds
magicmike: calls $14
K G B: folds
Baba Fats: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 8d 2c]
NECTAR29: bets $16
magicmike: calls $16
*** TURN *** [Qh 8d 2c] [7s]
NECTAR29: checks
magicmike: bets $63
NECTAR29: calls $63
*** RIVER *** [Qh 8d 2c 7s] [6h]
NECTAR29: checks
magicmike: bets $189
NECTAR29: calls $189
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magicmike: shows [3d 7h Ac 8c] (HI: two pair, Eights and Sevens; LO: 7,6,3,2,A)
NECTAR29: mucks hand
magicmike collected $283.50 from pot
magicmike collected $283.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $570 | Rake $3
Board [Qh 8d 2c 7s 6h]
Seat 1: Raakile folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: magicmike (button) showed [3d 7h Ac 8c] and won ($567) with HI: two pair, Eights and Sevens; LO: 7,6,3,2,A
Seat 3: K G B (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Baba Fats (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Shadaii folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NECTAR29 mucked [Ad 8s 2d As]
Seat 8: Kid_Tapang folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daviddodds folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Shabamabam 11-03-2007 12:51 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
I wish I had all the hands saved. This has been one of the swongiest months ever for me.

Missing a nice 40k upswing in first half. -10k in razz. +7k in stars. +7k in tourneys. +2k in holdem.

http://i19.tinypic.com/6gef793.jpg

Shabamabam 11-03-2007 01:01 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Not that interesting, but this sole hand put me over the edge and pretty much caused a huge bad play downswing.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $60</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($120, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($120, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $400</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $1486</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3092, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3092)


Results:
Final pot: $3092
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed 5s 6h 2c Td</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Qc 4s 3c Ah</font>

m bozeman 11-03-2007 02:40 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Villain blackspur is a 76/23. Ship it.

PokerStars Game #13016876140: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/03 - 14:36:50 (ET)
Table 'Hermippe III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: XXTickerXX ($386 in chips)
Seat 2: outlaw ($405 in chips)
Seat 3: jbm9358 ($192.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Disgruntled3 ($400 in chips)
Seat 5: bestof13 ($344.80 in chips)
Seat 6: BlackSpur ($357.50 in chips)
Seat 7: magicmike ($518.10 in chips)
Seat 8: NECTAR29 ($160.60 in chips)
Seat 9: xtreme20 ($384.85 in chips)
outlaw: posts small blind $2
jbm9358: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [As Ad Th 8s]
Disgruntled3: folds
bestof13: folds
BlackSpur: raises $8 to $12
magicmike: calls $12
NECTAR29: folds
xtreme20: folds
XXTickerXX: calls $12
outlaw: folds
jbm9358: raises $50 to $62
BlackSpur: calls $50
magicmike: calls $50
XXTickerXX: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4c Ac]
jbm9358: bets $130.35 and is all-in
BlackSpur: calls $130.35
xtreme20 leaves the table
magicmike: raises $325.75 to $456.10 and is all-in
BlackSpur: calls $165.15 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Jc 4c Ac] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 4c Ac Js] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BlackSpur: shows [3c Qh 2s Qd] (HI: two pair, Queens and Jacks)
magicmike: shows [As Ad Th 8s] (HI: a full house, Aces full of Jacks)
magicmike collected $330.30 from side pot
jbm9358: mucks hand
magicmike collected $588.05 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $921.35 Main pot $588.05. Side pot $330.30. | Rake $3
Board [Jc 4c Ac Js Kc]
Seat 1: XXTickerXX (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: outlaw (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jbm9358 (big blind) mucked [Td 9c Ts 9h]
Seat 4: Disgruntled3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bestof13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BlackSpur showed [3c Qh 2s Qd] and lost with HI: two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 7: magicmike showed [As Ad Th 8s] and won ($918.35) with HI: a full house, Aces full of Jacks
Seat 8: NECTAR29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: xtreme20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

m bozeman 11-03-2007 10:12 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Typical pokerstars setup;

PokerStars Game #13025314593: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/03 - 22:04:55 (ET)
Table 'Valda IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: SirScoooooop ($743.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Baba Fats ($130.05 in chips)
Seat 3: waterboy113 ($454.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Triangled ($193.10 in chips)
Seat 5: magicmike ($472.05 in chips)
Seat 6: daviddodds ($398 in chips)
Seat 7: XXTickerXX ($430.70 in chips)
Seat 8: Jayrule ($383.90 in chips)
Jayrule: posts small blind $2
SirScoooooop: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [7s Ad Ac Ts]
Baba Fats: folds
waterboy113: folds
Triangled: folds
magicmike: calls $4
daviddodds: raises $14 to $18
XXTickerXX: folds
Jayrule: folds
SirScoooooop: folds
magicmike: calls $14
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3h Js]
magicmike: checks
daviddodds: bets $24
magicmike: raises $48 to $72
daviddodds: raises $183.90 to $255.90
magicmike: raises $198.15 to $454.05 and is all-in
daviddodds: calls $124.10 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Qs 3h Js] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3h Js 5d] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magicmike: shows [7s Ad Ac Ts] (HI: a flush, King high)
daviddodds: shows [9h Ah As 5s] (HI: a flush, Ace high)
daviddodds collected $799 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $802 | Rake $3
Board [Qs 3h Js 5d Ks]
Seat 1: SirScoooooop (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Baba Fats folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: waterboy113 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Triangled folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: magicmike showed [7s Ad Ac Ts] and lost with HI: a flush, King high
Seat 6: daviddodds showed [9h Ah As 5s] and won ($799) with HI: a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: XXTickerXX (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Jayrule (small blind) folded before Flop

samwallistea 11-04-2007 12:09 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
I love omaha 8 or better. That is all

samwallistea 11-04-2007 05:05 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
FullTiltPoker Game #4068274319: Table Vassar (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 15:58:55 ET - 2007/11/04
Seat 1: figone59 ($46.65)
Seat 2: samwallistea ($50.05)
Seat 3: bigslugger21 ($150.85)
Seat 4: fillossofer ($24.50)
Seat 5: chinch4 ($27.80)
Seat 6: nitetako ($23.25)
chinch4 posts the small blind of $0.25
nitetako posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to samwallistea [Kh 2s 3c Ah]
figone59 has 15 seconds left to act
figone59 raises to $1.75
samwallistea raises to $3.85
bigslugger21 folds
fillossofer folds
chinch4 folds
nitetako folds
figone59 calls $2.10
*** FLOP *** [4d Qs 5h]
chinch4 stands up
figone59 bets $8.45
samwallistea raises to $33.80
figone59 raises to $42.80, and is all in
samwallistea calls $9
figone59 shows [2d Ad 3d Qh]
samwallistea shows [Kh 2s 3c Ah]
*** TURN *** [4d Qs 5h] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [4d Qs 5h 5c] [4c]
figone59 shows two pair, Queens and Fives, for high
samwallistea shows a pair of Fives, for high
figone59 wins the pot ($91.05) with two pair, Queens and Fives
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $94.05 | Rake $3
Board: [4d Qs 5h 5c 4c]
Seat 1: figone59 showed [2d Ad 3d Qh] and won ($91.05) with HI: two pair, Queens and Fives
Seat 2: samwallistea showed [Kh 2s 3c Ah] and lost with HI: a pair of Fives
Seat 3: bigslugger21 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: fillossofer (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: chinch4 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: nitetako (big blind) folded before the Flop


That one kinda stung

howzit 11-05-2007 03:21 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
every day game i play in:

raise UTG AA23, 3 spades. guy to my left 3 bets, 2 cold calls, blinds call. i cap. all call, six way action.

flop (24 SBs): 765, two diamonds. i bet, guy to my left raies, nobody folds, i 3 bet. all call.

turn(21 BBs): Ace. i bet, guy to my left raises, next guy calls, 3 folds, i 3 bet, guy to my left caps, we both call.

river(33 BBs): 7. i bet, both call. 36 BB total

guy to my left had 23KQ and gets quarter, guy calling down the whole way mucks, i show AA23 for 3/4.

and i STILL lost this session. (although i admit i played terribly for the rest of the session)

m bozeman 11-05-2007 04:37 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Dave is the best. He always has the best hand, and never gets lucky.

PokerStars Game #13059503610: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/05 - 15:28:38 (ET)
Table 'Monoceros' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 ($294.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 ($171.95 in chips)
Seat 3: jas21 ($132.30 in chips)
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe ($109.35 in chips)
Seat 5: namdeerf ($312.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Pikas ($118.15 in chips)
Seat 7: davebreal ($483.20 in chips)
Seat 8: magicmike ($382.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ylv2 ($400.50 in chips)
Exit4afilm2: posts small blind $2
jas21: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [Ad 2d Td Ah]
FearMeLoveMe: folds
namdeerf: folds
Pikas: folds
davebreal: raises $8 to $12
magicmike: calls $12
ylv2: folds
SKIPJACK2: folds
Exit4afilm2: folds
jas21: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5d 6h]
jas21: checks
davebreal: bets $36.10
magicmike: calls $36.10
jas21: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5d 6h] [Ks]
davebreal: bets $107.20
magicmike: calls $107.20
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5d 6h Ks] [5h]
davebreal: bets $321.60
magicmike: calls $227.60 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal: shows [Jc Js 2c As] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives)
magicmike: mucks hand
davebreal collected $776.80 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $779.80 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 5d 6h Ks 5h]
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jas21 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: namdeerf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pikas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: davebreal showed [Jc Js 2c As] and won ($776.80) with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives
Seat 8: magicmike mucked [Ad 2d Td Ah]
Seat 9: ylv2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I dunno 11-05-2007 09:24 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
If you want to see something besides NLHE on TV, turn to ESPN2 now.

Lucky Clubs 11-06-2007 10:26 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dave is the best. He always has the best hand, and never gets lucky.

PokerStars Game #13059503610: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/05 - 15:28:38 (ET)
Table 'Monoceros' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 ($294.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 ($171.95 in chips)
Seat 3: jas21 ($132.30 in chips)
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe ($109.35 in chips)
Seat 5: namdeerf ($312.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Pikas ($118.15 in chips)
Seat 7: davebreal ($483.20 in chips)
Seat 8: magicmike ($382.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ylv2 ($400.50 in chips)
Exit4afilm2: posts small blind $2
jas21: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [Ad 2d Td Ah]
FearMeLoveMe: folds
namdeerf: folds
Pikas: folds
davebreal: raises $8 to $12
magicmike: calls $12
ylv2: folds
SKIPJACK2: folds
Exit4afilm2: folds
jas21: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5d 6h]
jas21: checks
davebreal: bets $36.10
magicmike: calls $36.10
jas21: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5d 6h] [Ks]
davebreal: bets $107.20
magicmike: calls $107.20
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5d 6h Ks] [5h]
davebreal: bets $321.60
magicmike: calls $227.60 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal: shows [Jc Js 2c As] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives)
magicmike: mucks hand
davebreal collected $776.80 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $779.80 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 5d 6h Ks 5h]
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jas21 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: namdeerf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pikas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: davebreal showed [Jc Js 2c As] and won ($776.80) with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives
Seat 8: magicmike mucked [Ad 2d Td Ah]
Seat 9: ylv2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[/ QUOTE ]

Please 'splain river call.

PorkPieHat 11-06-2007 11:18 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Please splain turn flat call too.

m bozeman 11-06-2007 12:00 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Me and Dave have a long history, and frankly can't stand eachother. When I am in a pot with him, I tend to play differently, and string him along for the ride. The flop was great for my hand, with the overpair, nut flush draw, and nut low draw. The turn card, while not improving my hand, did not scare my hand at all. You could make a case for moving in here, but at this point, I'm not folding no matter what the river is; i'm pot commited. With his preflop raise, he could easily be betting a busted low draw, or even have the same hand, aces and fives.

davebreal 11-06-2007 01:14 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
and string him along for the ride

[/ QUOTE ]

LMAO, it's people like you that make this game profitable.

my PTO is busted but I think I had you running at -0.5bb for 2007 over 5000+ hands, most likely the same for '06. consider yourself priveleged to play with someone as good as me, maybe i'll let you kiss my shoe or something.

davebreal 11-06-2007 02:09 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
last night's session was lots of fun, i took a massive beating. sets can never beat 2 pair.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($655.70)</font>
Button ($1302.55)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($992)</font>
BB ($771.60)
UTG ($448.60)
MP ($499.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $18</font>, Button calls $18, Hero calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($72) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $35</font>, Button calls $35, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $209</font>, BB folds, CO calls $174, Button folds.

Turn: ($525) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $522</font>, CO calls $428.70 (All-In).

River: ($1382.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1382.40

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has 4c 5h 2c Qc (High: full house, queens full of twos).
Hero has Ts Kh 9c 9h (High: full house, nines full of queens).
Outcome: CO wins $1382.40. Hero wins $93.30. </font>

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($140.20)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($1929.75)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($550.20)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($86.35)</font>
Button ($1013.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, MP calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($72) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $70</font>, MP calls $68.35 (All-In), SB calls $70, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $418.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $532.2</font>, SB calls $52.20 (All-In), BB calls $113.85.

Turn: ($506.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($506.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1326.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 9s 3h 2s 5d (Low: 8, 5, 3, 2, A | High: two pair, tens and threes).
BB has 4d Ac 9h 5h (Low: 8, 5, 4, 3, A | High: flush, ace high).
Hero has 8s 8c 3d 2c (High: full house, eights full of tens).
MP has 3s Ts Ad 6d (High: full house, tens full of aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $490.77. BB wins $410. SB wins $253.47. MP wins $172.70. </font>

Mendacious 11-06-2007 05:40 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG yuanyuan (<font color="#0000cc">$1041.00</font>)
UTG+1 kanattack (<font color="#0000cc">$1830.00</font>)
MP1 rutasasha (<font color="#0000cc">$1324.00</font>)
MP2 sheckler (<font color="#0000cc">$2004.50</font>)
CO Squirrely1 (<font color="#0000cc">$1125.50</font>)
BTN SittingBull (<font color="#0000cc">$1203.50</font>)
SB mrb513 (<font color="#0000cc">$1092.00</font>)
BB Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$945.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($45, 8 players) Hero is BB Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">4 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $60</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $30

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($135, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $60</font>, Hero calls $30

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $120</font>, Squirrely1 calls $60

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($495, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $180</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $240</font>, Hero calls $60

Final Pot: $975
Hero shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Squirrely1 shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Squirrely1 wins $972 ( won +$492 )
Hero lost -$480.00

davebreal 11-06-2007 06:05 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG yuanyuan (<font color="#0000cc">$1041.00</font>)
UTG+1 kanattack (<font color="#0000cc">$1830.00</font>)
MP1 rutasasha (<font color="#0000cc">$1324.00</font>)
MP2 sheckler (<font color="#0000cc">$2004.50</font>)
CO Squirrely1 (<font color="#0000cc">$1125.50</font>)
BTN SittingBull (<font color="#0000cc">$1203.50</font>)
SB mrb513 (<font color="#0000cc">$1092.00</font>)
BB Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$945.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($45, 8 players) Hero is BB Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">4 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $60</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $30

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($135, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $60</font>, Hero calls $30

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $120</font>, Squirrely1 calls $60

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($495, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $180</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Squirrely1 raises to $240</font>, Hero calls $60

Final Pot: $975
Hero shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Squirrely1 shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Squirrely1 wins $972 ( won +$492 )
Hero lost -$480.00

[/ QUOTE ]

this is extremely typical play for this level on both Stars and FTP, common sense never prevails in these games. fortunately it does make the game very profitable, the only thing to do is make notes on the maniacs and steer clear of the nut peddlers.

Olin Prefleup 11-06-2007 07:47 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
I usually cashout to my bank via bank wire at Party, and have to do some cover play to do so.
Well, i've been getting raped at PL25, either getting sucked out on the river, getting counterfeited contantly, or getting quartered against worst-case-scenario hands; while not much monetarily its certainly frustrating. [censored]

predator06 11-06-2007 10:51 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
$25/$50 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$1075.00</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$925.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($75, 2 players) Hero is BTN 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $1075</font>, BB calls $875

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2000, 2 players)

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2000, 2 players)

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2000, 2 players)

Final Pot: $1850
Hero shows: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB shows: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero wins $1999.5 ( won +$924.5 )
BB lost -$925.00

I thought he was SUCH a donk, but when I ran the numbers, I was only 52/48!!!

davebreal 11-06-2007 10:54 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
$25/$50 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
2 players

[/ QUOTE ]

obviously it's No Limit, there's a contact button on weaktight.com, i already sent something about stakes headers getting messed up, but i'd advise anyone else with problems to submit them also.

davebreal 11-06-2007 11:56 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
he put me on QQ?

$2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$421.00</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$1064.75</font>)
MP (<font color="#0000cc">$20.50</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$421.70</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$550.50</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$59.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$865.75</font>)

Pre-flop: ($6, 7 players) Hero is CO 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, SB calls $2, BB checks

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($20, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $20</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $80</font>, <font color="#777777">SB folds</font>, <font color="#777777">BB folds</font>, UTG calls $60

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($180, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $180</font>, UTG calls $180

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($540, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $157.7</font>, UTG calls $157

Final Pot: $854
Hero shows: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG shows: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero wins $851.7 ( won +$430 )
UTG+1 lost -$4.00
SB lost -$4.00
BB lost -$4.00
UTG lost -$421.00

Gurravasa 11-07-2007 05:38 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Which book is generally considered to be the best "first read" for PLO H/L?

predator06 11-07-2007 07:29 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
Which book is generally considered to be the best "first read" for PLO H/L?

[/ QUOTE ]

This 2+2 forum

Gurravasa 11-07-2007 07:48 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Which book is generally considered to be the best "first read" for PLO H/L?

[/ QUOTE ]

This 2+2 forum

[/ QUOTE ]

Forums usually aren't the best way to learn a new game. There are several Omaha high/low books and I would like to know which is regarded to be best.

Buzz 11-07-2007 08:33 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Gurravasa - There is a special forum for discussion of books and publications. If you had put your question in a separate post, I would have moved it there - and I suggest you visit that forum and perhaps ask your question there.

Since you've posted in the low content thread, I can't move your post, and since it doesn't really deserve to get deleted, let me try to answer for you.

I don't know of any book that is specifically written for pot-limit Omaha-8. There could be one, but if there is, I've never seen it.

Most Omaha-8 books include sections on fixed-limit Omaha-8 and pot-limit Omaha-8.

I'm partial to Ray Zee's 2+2 split poker book. The last half of it is devoted to Omaha-8 (and the first half to stud-8). But there honestly isn't much specifically about the pot limit game - just a short section. However, his book does cover general principles quite well - and it is "the classic" book about Omaha-8, a must read for the serious student of the game.

Aside from that there are fans of Cappelletti, Krieger, and various other authors. I have bought every book I have ever seen with Omaha in it's title - over a dozen.

Ray Zee's book is the best, in my humble opinion, and is very readable.

The Omaha-8 section in Super System II is also very good.

Most of the other books have merit and I have probably picked up something from many or them - but some books are truly awful and others are very or somewhat misleading, so be careful.

Go to the books and publications forum for better information.

Buzz
moderator of this forum

Gurravasa 11-07-2007 09:02 AM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
Thanx Buzz.

I posted in the "wrong" forum on purpose, because I expected to get better answers here, and I think I did! Sometimes there are too many opinions in the "book" forum and it's hard to get an straight answer. I'll dig up SS2 and order Ray Zees book and get going. Then I'll terrorize this forum with foolish beginner hands [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]...

RioGossiper 11-07-2007 04:16 PM

Re: **********November Low Content**************
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Which book is generally considered to be the best "first read" for PLO H/L?

[/ QUOTE ]

This 2+2 forum

[/ QUOTE ]

Flame: I think I dislike you more than davebreal. you are certainly more pompous and full of it than him.

Take your delusion of high importance elsewhere.


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