$12: KK OOP w/ A on flop
 

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1740
UTG+1: t875
MP1: t2580
MP2: t1735
CO: t1700
Button: t1460
SB: t1925
Hero: t1485

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t150</font>, 6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t450</font>, UTG calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t575)</font>.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t925, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t925, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets t450</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1035</font>

Only read on villain is that he pushed over one of my raises on another table with AQo at the 40/80 lvl.

When the 2nd Ace hits on the turn I figured its even more likely that he doesn't have an Ace.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Re: $12: KK OOP w/ A on flop
 

i like it.
you got lucky to get the check on the flop. i dont see him playing an ace worth raising this way unless its AJ (or AA!).
his turn bet could be KJs or QJs more often than AJ ( no way he bets AA here), esp since its half pot size; he correctly thinks you cant have ace either! (i kinda like the chkraise here)

continuation bet mighta made this hand easier to play and kept the pot smaller (you bet, he fold or raises, if he raises you are gone on flop)

Brian

Re: $12: KK OOP w/ A on flop
 

If you make a continuation bet on the flop, what is a good size? 1/3 the pot? 1/2 the pot?

Re: $12: KK OOP w/ A on flop
 

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If you make a continuation bet on the flop, what is a good size? 1/3 the pot? 1/2 the pot?

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A cont. bet in this spot is horrible imo because a 1/2 pot bet commits you to the pot and no worse hands are calling.

Re: $12: KK OOP w/ A on flop
 

There is no worse feeling for me than to see an A flop when i'm holding KK and i'm out of position...a C/B here to me is basically closing your eyes and saying "Please don't have an A"

I like the check, sucks if he bets but i think you need to lay it down.

I also like your C/R, if he is sophisticated enough to check his T/P, on the flop then lead bet it on the turn b/c he knows that you know, that he can't have an A then congrats sir, your chips are his. Well played.

I think your more likely going to see him call off what he has left with KJ in his hand...