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wpr101 08-12-2007 02:54 PM

Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
Most of you know villian. It's full ring also. Should I fold somewhere?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($802.20)
UTG ($1049.70)
wpr101 ($997.80)
MP1 ($629.70)
MP2 ($1907.40)
MP3 ($865)
CO ($574.55)
Button ($1026.05)
SB ($600)

Preflop: wpr101 is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $24, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">wpr101 bets $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $144</font>, wpr101 calls $96.

Turn: ($345) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
wpr101 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $256</font>, wpr101 calls $256.

River: ($857) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
wpr101 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $602.05 (All-In)</font>, wpr101 calls $573.80 (All-In).

Final Pot: $2004.60

recallme 08-12-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
Turn or flop, but never river, imho

wpr101 08-12-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
What is his range like? I think that KT folds always preflop (full ring, and I'm raising UTG+1). JJ makes sense, but he also reraises that a fair amount.

BalugaWhale 08-12-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
probably the turn if he wont go this aggro w AJ

wpr101 08-12-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
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probably the turn if he wont go this aggro w AJ

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The thing I was most unsure about was whether he could be value betting AJ here. In retrospect probably not for this hand.

AAismyfriend 08-12-2007 03:46 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
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What is his range like? I think that KT folds always preflop (full ring, and I'm raising UTG+1). JJ makes sense, but he also reraises that a fair amount.

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Yea that's what I'm having trouble with here also. KT doesn't make much sense, and I think he'd check the river with AJ. It tilts me when people show up with JJ here sooooo much!

MDMA 08-12-2007 03:53 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
WTF are you talking about him not having KT

Heir_Aparent 08-12-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
wow, this is gross spot. i cant see him playin a hand for value thats worse than yours here, since i doubt daut plays AJ so agressively. best case scenario is that he has the same hand as you..

do you think he ever shows up with complete air here? i dont really know daut. how does he view you?

i probably grudgingly fold.

Heir_Aparent 08-12-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
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WTF are you talking about him not having KT

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yeah i agree. he can defenitely call k10s hands here. also, why cant he have QQ here? theres no reason he doesn't sometimes smooth call that full ring (yes i know u have one of the queens, but still) to your UTG raise.

wpr101 08-12-2007 05:12 PM

Re: Tough top two pair hand vs. Daut
 
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WTF are you talking about him not having KT

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FULL RING, UTG+1 RAISE.


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