lol I tried to bluff him
 

As a life nit I have no idea how to run elaborate bluffs. Please help.

PokerStars Game #9762684683: Tournament #48888579, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/05 - 14:39:24 (ET)
Table '48888579 11' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: KentyKent (3712 in chips)
Seat 2: stackinkids (5066 in chips)
Seat 3: patek3970 (6225 in chips)
Seat 4: Rabscuttle (1895 in chips)
Seat 5: Bjorn_I_Hi (1800 in chips)
Seat 6: jeff710 (1170 in chips)
Seat 7: SirWatts (4361 in chips)
Seat 8: aaaaaaaa (2895 in chips)
Seat 9: BrunoCarrico (7408 in chips)
KentyKent: posts small blind 75
stackinkids: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SirWatts [Kh Jh]
patek3970: folds
Rabscuttle: folds
Bjorn_I_Hi: folds
jeff710: folds
SirWatts: raises 300 to 450
aaaaaaaa said, "i have t cal a 10 there vs u right?"
aaaaaaaa: folds
BrunoCarrico: folds
KentyKent: folds
aaaaaaaa said, "to call^^^^^^^^"
stackinkids: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [8s 6s 5s]
stackinkids: checks
SirWatts: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 6s 5s] [Qh]
stackinkids: checks
SirWatts: bets 600
stackinkids: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [8s 6s 5s Qh] [Th]
stackinkids: checks
SirWatts: ?

Turn bet fine? Follow through on the river? If so how much? I probably have a fairly tight image and villian seems semi-loose.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

Monotone flops create volatile and unpredictable reactions so I generally don't bluff at them.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

Question is he looses enough to call with Ace High? In that case you have to check.

His line looks like a 22-99, suited connectors or maybe some broadway. I'd say this looks like a small pp that will likely call you down. I check you took your shot let it go.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

Your two options are to give up, or to bet enough that you won't be called by ace-high in case he was drawing. Ugly spot.

If you were going to bluff at this pot, you should have bet the flop. It is not credible that you would check that flop with any kind of hand -- from 9h9d to a small flush, most players are betting there. So what are you repping with the turn bet? A slowplayed nut flush? That's about the only thing that makes any sense, and it's a thin reed to hang a big bluff on.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

Actually, I do all the time so I advise from bitter experience. The thing is, if your opponent is thinking, what hand that can stand calling a push checks that flop and then bets turn and river? A big queen with no spades and not much else as I see it. And what hand can he have that checks the flop but calls the turn? He seems made in some way because there aren't many one spade hands that aren't leading/raising, especially if he's loose. So I think he's going to be difficult to shift off the hand on the river.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

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Monotone flops create volatile and unpredictable reactions so I generally don't bluff at them.

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Very, very well put.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

If you aren't good at bluffing, you need to remember that a bluff needs to tell a plausible story. Imagine a real hand and line you would take with that hand, and play it accordingly.

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

This:
Monotone flops create volatile and unpredictable reactions so I generally don't bluff at them.

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This:
If you aren't good at bluffing, you need to remember that a bluff needs to tell a plausible story. Imagine a real hand and line you would take with that hand, and play it accordingly.

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Smart

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

tank and shove

Re: lol I tried to bluff him
 

I generally don't bluff at monotone boards as much, especially on the flop, but people make less crazy moves with only one card to come and the turn is a good card to represent. Anyways I decided to follow through and represent KQ or AQ w/ no spade (or some random slowplay I guess) and bet 1350. He called with JJ though and I remembered rule #1 of donkaments. Never run elaborate bluffs. Ever.