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Clever Nickname 11-29-2007 03:15 AM

200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
I've only played one or two orbits with this villain; all I know so far is he is very loose pf and has made some very light calls postflop. I have no idea what his flop donk means, but his pf range is very wide and I think that, while he could certainly have a king here, he will also call my shove with a hand like JT or any draw. He could possibly be donking out with air planning to fold to a raise but I doubt it, and I don't think I have much fold equity. Given the size of the pot and the fact that he's only on 75bb, is a shove good here?

Also, I squeezed preflop instead of just flatcalling because the blinds were both quite aggro and would squeeze quite often if I just called, and UTG was a super loose donkey who would fold a ton of his range to a reraise.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $501.80
MP: $198.40
CO: $153.15
Hero (BTN): $206.20
SB: $217.90
BB: $210.45

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO calls $7, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $24

Flop: ($72) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $44</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $175.20 and is All-In</font>

Kinbor 11-29-2007 03:52 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
i think once he donkbets, you have to shove as you probably have his range beat right now (he is probably on a straight or flush draw).

Double Eagle 11-29-2007 03:56 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
This is rarely a king and I happily get it in here. NH.

bigbabyjesus 11-29-2007 04:01 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
I think it's fine. It's really hard to ever know what a donk like this is. It could be a hand like KQ, 88, a draw, a J, air, anything. You have enough strength w/ middle pair, BDSD and a BDFD to shove it in here.

Krazykyle 11-29-2007 05:19 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
2 orbits w/ the guy and u r 3 betting w/ qjs? kinda lite imo~ if fact makes me want to puke. i think, ajs vs his range on the button is a better call if not just fold.

regardless as played i think fold is most likely best. your preflop 3bet really screwed up the rest of this hand b/c now the pot is so huge that c/c or c/r is almost a committing raise~

i dont think that your bds/f draw + 1 pair is worth crap, maybe c/c c/f unimproved. i just hate the 3bet~

Clever Nickname 11-29-2007 05:23 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
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ajs vs his range on the button is a better call if not just fold.

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Double Eagle 11-29-2007 05:52 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
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2 orbits w/ the guy and u r 3 betting w/ qjs? kinda lite imo~ if fact makes me want to puke. i think, ajs vs his range on the button is a better call if not just fold.

regardless as played i think fold is most likely best. your preflop 3bet really screwed up the rest of this hand b/c now the pot is so huge that c/c or c/r is almost a committing raise~

i dont think that your bds/f draw + 1 pair is worth crap, maybe c/c c/f unimproved. i just hate the 3bet~

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Nit alert.

tubasteve 11-29-2007 06:31 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
i do this all the time.

therockofgibraltar 11-29-2007 06:47 AM

Re: 200NL - Midpair in reraised pot vs. donkey
 
I like the whole hand. The preflop squeeze ip with sc. And the flop shove. Pot is so big on the flop after he donks and he only has 39bb left (pot 58bb), you clearly cant fold in this board, so shove!


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