vehn
 

live 30/60 5 handed
villain is vehn. this game sucks and i dont know why im in it but i am.

folds to vehn in the SB and he raises, I 3bet A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] from the BB, he calls.

flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
he check/calls
turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
he check/raises, I call.

river: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
he check, i.....

Re: vehn
 

CHECK

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because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand?

Would he pay off with Ax 9h?

Re: vehn
 

These spots against players u know and respect are always interesting. When he checks river it looks like he checkraised A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x, but is he trapping?

Often I think u should make a decision based on what happend lately at the table.

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because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand?

Would he pay off with Ax 9h?

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because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand?


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yes

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because you can't see him calling with a worse hand, or because we think he has a better hand?


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what the [censored] does have here?

Re: vehn
 

If this is worth value betting it would follow that we should have 3 bet the turn I think. Or is the fact that he now checks on a complete blank enough new information to make a turn non-3 bet but now river value bet correct?

Personally I would be 3 betting the turn here against a lot of my friends but its a weird line he took for sure. Also I hate free showdown raises but this is a good board for the turn 3 bet and take a free showdown unimproved line because of the hearts though he could muster a crying call with a lot I guess. Sort of interesting hand I think but it depends a lot on what you two do against each other so everything besides that is all just a decent TAG on TAG exercise.

-DeathDonkey

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Or is the fact that he now checks on a complete blank enough new information to make a turn non-3 bet but now river value bet correct?

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Bingo.

"I would like to book passage for two to Valuetown, USA. Uh oh... I'm a little short on cash. Vehn, you got this one?"

Re: vehn
 

Check to see what he played this way. After he crs the turn he will never pay off river w/ a worse hand if you have the cojones to vb. He is probably going for el doble cheque y gasolina.