Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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You might want to rethink this post. Also, maybe rethink what you think moral relativism means?

Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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Um, if we had "left them alone," and stopped sending charities and people over there to "help" them, this teacher wouldn't have been there in the first place and this wouldn't have been an issue.

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Yeah why we just leave Sudan alone so the islamic extremists who control the government can be left alone to continue their oppression and killing of those who practice other religions in Darfur.

And how cruel indeed to "force" a fat unattractive middle-aged western teacher on them. Oh the injustice!

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There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us. But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad are going to just leave us alone? Of course not. These people are completely irrational and are bent on destroying Western civilization as we know it.

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Um, if we had "left them alone," and stopped sending charities and people over there to "help" them, this teacher wouldn't have been there in the first place and this wouldn't have been an issue.

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Yeah why we just leave Sudan alone so the islamic extremists who control the government can be left alone to continue their oppression and killing of those who practice other religions in Darfur.

And how cruel indeed to "force" a fat unattractive middle-aged western teacher on them. Oh the injustice!

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She's more than welcome to go there. If you go into a lion's den don't start bitching when they maul your ass. Also, feel free to go and defend those you care about in Darfur.

Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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You might want to rethink this post. Also, maybe rethink what you think moral relativism means?

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he's forgiving an immoral action because of historical differences... moral relativism

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In philosophy, moral relativism is the position that moral or ethical propositions do not reflect objective and/or universal moral truths, but instead make claims relative to social, cultural, historical or personal circumstances.

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Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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Well in this case the women involved is being sent to prison for 15 days for naming her bear Mohamed. Which seems just as irrational to me as getting in a lather if a person of a certain race dosnt sit at the back of the bus.

Btw does 100 lashes for being raped = being killed by police officers and dumped in a swamp for encouraging people of a certain race to vote?

Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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Well in this case the women involved is being sent to prison for 15 days for naming her bear Mohamed. Which seems just as irrational to me as getting in a lather if a person of a certain race dosnt sit at the back of the bus.

Btw does 100 lashes for being raped = being killed by police officers and dumped in a swamp for encouraging people of a certain race to vote?

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meh... The swamp thing is an isolated case. The lashings for rape is a policy from the highest level of government.

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There seem to be a lot of people in this forum who believe that if we just leave the Muslim world alone they'll stop attacking us.

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What we actually believe is that initiating violence is wrong. Make peace with them, give them back their land and settle things, and see what happens. If, after this, they initiate violence on us, then it will be legitimate to attack them and not before.

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But do you really expect people who are willing to kill someone for merely naming a teddy bear Mohammad

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Sorry, no. Protesting rhetoric != doing. By this logic, anyone who protests "down with Bush" should be treated as if they've actually assaulted the president and hanged for treason. Then again, maybe you actually believe this.

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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Well in this case the women involved is being sent to prison for 15 days for naming her bear Mohamed. Which seems just as irrational to me as getting in a lather if a person of a certain race dosnt sit at the back of the bus.

Btw does 100 lashes for being raped = being killed by police officers and dumped in a swamp for encouraging people of a certain race to vote?

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meh... The swamp thing is an isolated case. The lashings for rape is a policy from the highest level of government.

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In 1944, 13% of Americans wanted to "kill all Japanese" and in December 1945 22% wished the United States had had the opportunity to use "many more" atomic bombs before Japan had a chance to surrender.

Re: Perfect example of why we need to actively fight Islamo-facism
 

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How long ago was it that the idea that a black women didnt have to sit at the back of the bus could cause moral outrage in parts of the USA?

Not that long ago. Some parts of the world are slightly behind the curve of progress.

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wow moral relativism ftw...

a lot of islamic society (not UAE for example, but saudi arabia) is basically in the dark ages. back of the bus != 100 lashes for being raped.

that being said, this isn't an example of why we need to fight islamo-facism. If you want to make that argument, talk about Iran, Syria and Sudan's macro-policies, not local events.

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You might want to rethink this post. Also, maybe rethink what you think moral relativism means?

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he's forgiving an immoral action because of historical differences... moral relativism

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How'd you get "forgiving an immoral action" out of TOAFK's post?