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menacing_1 02-27-2007 03:38 PM

Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
Here are the pre-bracket odds of all of the players competing in the National Heads-Up Poker Championship, as set by noted oddsmaker Jimmy Vaccaro. Who do you think will win? Maybe someone could post a poll.

Johnny Chan: 23:1
Phil Ivey: 25:1
Chris Ferguson: 27:1
Allen Cunningham: 28:1
Howard Lederer: 28:1
Daniel Negreanu: 28:1
Barry Greenstein: 29:1
Phil Hellmuth: 29:1
Antonio Esfandiari: 30:1
Ted Forrest: 30:1
Gus Hansen: 30:1
John Juanda: 30:1
Chip Reese: 30:1
Todd Brunson: 32:1
Erick Lindgren: 32:1
Michael Mizrachi: 32:1
Huck Seed: 32:1
Erik Seidel: 32:1
Patrik Antonius: 35:1
Brad Booth: 35:1
Sam Farha: 35:1
Phil Laak: 37:1
Nam Le: 37:1
Jennifer Harman: 38:1
Joe Hachem: 38:1
Mike Matusow: 38:1
Andy Bloch: 40:1
Chad Brown: 40:1
T.J. Cloutier: 40:1
Annie Duke: 40:1
Jeff Madsen: 40:1
Carlos Mortensen: 40:1
Yosh Nakano: 40:1
Scotty Nguyen: 40:1
J.C. Tran: 40:1
Cyndy Violette: 40:1
Greg Raymer: 42:1
Gabe Kaplan: 43:1
Shawn Sheikhan: 43:1
Gavin Smith: 43:1
David Benyamine: 45:1
Humberto Brenes: 45:1
John D’Agostino: 45:1
Eli Elezra: 45:1
Phil Gordon: 45:1
Clonie Gowen: 45:1
Tuan Le: 45:1
Chris Moneymaker: 45:1
Jeff Shulman: 45:1
Steve Zolotow: 45:1
Vanessa Rousso: 46:1
Rene Angelil: 48:1
Scott Fischman 48:1
Paul Darden: 50:1
Kristy Gazes: 50:1
Jamie Gold: 50:1
Marco Traniello: (Caesars qualifier) 50:1
David Williams: 50:1
Don Cheadle: 60:1
Shannon Elizabeth: 60:1
Isabelle Mercier: 60:1
Jennifer Tilly: 60:1
John Michael: (Caesars qualifier) 100:1
NBC qualifier: 100:1

stereoman 02-27-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
Two questions from me:

1. I'd like to know, how you knew of these odds?

Why do I want to know? Because I couldn't Google them.

2. Which bookmaker is offering these odds?

One assumes they're actually betable and not for entertainment purposes though.

In Jimmy's defence, this is a fair book compared to what will be offered over at the offshore outfits.

holdemft 02-27-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
I can understand most of those showing high odds, but David Williams? If these are the real odds, that's disrespectful, he should be closer to the 35:40-1 range.

Daniel Negreanu 02-27-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
Those odds are ridiculously off base. The groupings are just sometimes so bizarre? Too many players ahead of Ted Forrest. JC Tran is in the completely wrong group. He would absolutely eat that group up.

David Benyamine and John D'Agostino in the 45-1 group? Is that for real? LOL, it's nuts.

Dynasty 02-27-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
Aren't there 64 players in this tournament? How can everybody but two players be at 60:1 or better?

disjunction 02-27-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
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Aren't there 64 players in this tournament? How can everybody but two players be at 60:1 or better?

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these are the best of the best you are talking about here. they are that good.

Mr. Orange 02-27-2007 08:57 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
I really don't see how they can make odds before the brackets are put up.

JimmyGunz 02-27-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
celine dion husband better odds than wsop champ, wow

beaver 02-27-2007 10:37 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
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I really don't see how they can make odds before the brackets are put up.

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NickMPK 02-27-2007 10:46 PM

Re: Odds on all players in National Heads-Up Championship
 
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I really don't see how they can make odds before the brackets are put up.

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Why not? The odds might change after the brackets are created, but it is certainly possible to generate odds before the brackets are created. In theory, you could estimate the odds of a player winning for each possible bracket combination and take the average. But I'm sure it is much simpler than that. The odds of any player winning a given match are almost always going to be in 45-55% range, so the odds won't vary that much for most bracket combinations.


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