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WHITEBOYAEHS 11-30-2007 10:52 PM

near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
i was running this table until bb got moved here. there are like 60 left when itm is 45. i am roughtly 7th he is cl

Full Tilt (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of 500.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...

WHITEBOYAEHS 11-30-2007 10:52 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
wow....where are the bet amounts did i mess something up here with converter?

WHITEBOYAEHS 11-30-2007 10:55 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
the hand is more interesting when betsizes are shown...

WHITEBOYAEHS 11-30-2007 11:01 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
ok lets try this again, here is the hand

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 125 Ante, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: 23,299
BB: 150,435
UTG: 8,067
MP: 24,298
Hero (CO): 81,865
BTN: 8,990

Pre-Flop: (2,250) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 3,000</font>, 2 folds, BB calls 2,000

Flop: (7,250) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 4,750</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 18,000</font>, <font color="red">Hero .... please no flaming [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

EroTheMad 11-30-2007 11:21 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
Shove.

ceegee 11-30-2007 11:25 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
Call IMO, then if you miss and he fires check fold.

EroTheMad 11-30-2007 11:28 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
If i wasn't too lazy now(because it's 5.27 AM here) i would wrote lots of numbers, calculations, math things. But shoving here is waaay better than calling.

WHITEBOYAEHS 11-30-2007 11:53 PM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
ok so its shove only...i obv wasnt considering calling...but i thought i had edge on table if i folded and i would still have an ok stack rather than going into whats probably a coinflip for my tournament life...idk

EroTheMad 12-01-2007 12:08 AM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
Yes, this thing goes like this, you have an edge on table but big stack keep coming over top always and you keep folding. Then you'll become like M=8-9 and you'll have no choice other than open shoving and putting your tourney life on coin flip. There are still 60 players and it's too early to pass doubleup chances. And how many times you see this wonderful flop? If flop was ten high with 2 hearts i'd still shove here. At 10$ and big stack he'll do this move with Qx enough times to make your shove profitable. I don't think he has QQ here, you have one of the Jacks so JJ is less likely. The only hand you should be afraid of here is 33. Against a set, we still have %31 chance. But as i said you can't always think if he has 33. He has it only small percantage of time. With a flop like this i like 3betting and here's your raise. Double up and rape the table.

WHITEBOYAEHS 12-01-2007 12:23 AM

Re: near bubble in the 6max 5r on ftp
 
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Yes, this thing goes like this, you have an edge on table but big stack keep coming over top always and you keep folding. Then you'll become like M=8-9 and you'll have no choice other than open shoving and putting your tourney life on coin flip. There are still 60 players and it's too early to pass doubleup chances. And how many times you see this wonderful flop? If flop was ten high with 2 hearts i'd still shove here. At 10$ and big stack he'll do this move with Qx enough times to make your shove profitable. I don't think he has QQ here, you have one of the Jacks so JJ is less likely. The only hand you should be afraid of here is 33. Against a set, we still have %31 chance. But as i said you can't always think if he has 33. He has it only small percantage of time. With a flop like this i like 3betting and here's your raise. Double up and rape the table.

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i tried that lol...and actually, this was the first hand i had played with that villain and i had no clue what he had. the end of the hand went like this...

Flop: (7,250) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 4,750</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 18,000</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 78,740 and is All-In</font>, BB calls 60,740

Turn: (164,730) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (164,730) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 164,730 Pot
BB showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Threes full of Queens) and WON 164,730 (+82,865 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Threes) and LOST (-81,865 NET)


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