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Ulkis 11-24-2007 11:13 AM

Over-raise PF steal...rationale?
 
I am in the BB, everyone folds (50NL) until BTN raises to $3 ie 6xBB...I had KQo and I folded.

Is it more likely he had nada?

akak 11-24-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Over-raise PF steal...rationale?
 
I fold too. I don't bother defending my blinds like I do in limit, and I'm pretty sure that's the standard thing to do.

I mean if you're feeling frisky, you could put in a big raise and possibly take down his huge pf bet, but I don't think it's worth it.

Edit: added part in italics for clairty

xxrod17xx 11-24-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Over-raise PF steal...rationale?
 
This is 100% a raise or fold situation in NL cash games. If you have PT you could look at this attempt to steal % and if it is a bit high (over like 30-35%+) you could def argue for a resteal here, but a fold is usually your best course of action here. You aren't defending your blinds in NL, but you will make a 3-bet here sometimes with air (KQo OOP is air) because we are going to be 3-betting hands like QQ-AA and maybe AK out of the blinds often and this is a good way to balance.

akak 11-24-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Over-raise PF steal...rationale?
 
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You aren't defending your blinds in NL, but you will make a 3-bet here sometimes with air (KQo OOP is air) because we are going to be 3-betting hands like QQ-AA and maybe AK out of the blinds often and this is a good way to balance.

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I wouldn't say it's air. It's certainly not standard to 3-bet KQo OOP, but there's a huge difference between 3-betting 72o and what you're doing here. I consider "air" to be a completely worthless hand if called.

diebitter 11-25-2007 05:37 AM

Re: Over-raise PF steal...rationale?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am in the BB, everyone folds (50NL) until BTN raises to $3 ie 6xBB...I had KQo and I folded.

Is it more likely he had nada?

[/ QUOTE ]

fold the first time, and watch him. If he keeps doing it, run over the top of him once every 4th or 5th time he does it, and profit greatly.


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