final table of 30r w/ qq
Anyway to get away? Big blind is 5k, so I have 12 bb in the bb. EP raiser, but still could be a wide range, and a min 3 bet to 30k by the mp.
If this isnt appropriate for high stakes mtt ,just delete Full Tilt Poker (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to 15000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to 30,000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises 62374 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> . Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: |
Re: final table of 30r w/ qq
try to put them on a reasonable hand range where you don't have easily enough equity to shove this.
this is a really standard shove. In the future include stack sizes. |
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To be nitty it wasn't a min raise.
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To be nitty it wasn't a min raise. [/ QUOTE ] yeah whatever, it was a minraise plus a big blind lol. Not the point of the hand. I mean basically it has been my experience that these raises are like kk and aa 90% of the time |
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To be nitty it wasn't a min raise. [/ QUOTE ] It's that bit scarier usually. How scary depends on stack sizes. |
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i can't imagine folding this. i assume one of them had KK or AA and you're wondering if you could have folded but to me the answer is no
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Not with 12 BB. 120 BB is another discussion.
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Not with 12 BB. 120 BB is another discussion. [/ QUOTE ] I hope this is an exageration |
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definetely a shove, what were results?
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definetely a shove, what were results? [/ QUOTE ] aa obv, Im proly just being results oriented but w/e |
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[ QUOTE ] definetely a shove, what were results? [/ QUOTE ] aa obv, Im proly just being results oriented but w/e [/ QUOTE ] "Proly just being results oriented?" More like "absolutely 100% definitely being results oriented." |
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[ QUOTE ] definetely a shove, what were results? [/ QUOTE ] aa obv, Im proly just being results oriented but w/e [/ QUOTE ] Thats good. AA was part of the <u>range</u> of hands that you put him on. Good read, also good call. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] definetely a shove, what were results? [/ QUOTE ] aa obv, Im proly just being results oriented but w/e [/ QUOTE ] Thats good. AA was part of the <u>range</u> of hands that you put him on. Good read, also good call. [/ QUOTE ] man I know how poker works, that wasnt the point of this post. The point is that in my experience small minraises like this are always the nuts preflop, so is this a spot where i can accept that and just save my 12bb stack and try to find a spot where i have fold equity, or are we fine with hoping that this is one of the rare times that the minraiser flips over a mid pair or something stupid? |
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[ QUOTE ] Not with 12 BB. 120 BB is another discussion. [/ QUOTE ] I hope this is an exageration [/ QUOTE ] Obviously it is. Just saying that with 12 BB you're basically committing a giant crime by not getting all the money in with QQ preflop. If he was, say, 120 BB behind, getting it all in with QQ preflop would perhaps be more questionable, based on circumstances. |
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The point is that in my experience small minraises like this are always the nuts preflop [/ QUOTE ] If QJs,A9o, KQsooooooted and all that other good stuff are the Nuts for u, than we do agree. I never believe people when they tell me what monsterfolds they made. Maybe i should... |
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[ QUOTE ] The point is that in my experience small minraises like this are always the nuts preflop [/ QUOTE ] If QJs,A9o, KQsooooooted and all that other good stuff are the Nuts for u, than we do agree. I never believe people when they tell me what monsterfolds they made. Maybe i should... [/ QUOTE ] I didnt fold this, and wont in the future in the same spot. I posted this hand cause I wanted to know if any1lays this down |
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