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wpr101 07-04-2007 09:12 AM

10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
Villian who cold called the 3 bet is RaSZi, he called pre rather quickly. I have RaSZi at 22/16 over 86 hands, and he seems like a strong player. On the flop I probably just should have bet and folded to a push? Also, remember it is FR.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($2000)
wpr101 ($4027)
MP2 ($896.10)
MP3 ($1472)
CO ($2000)
Button ($2810)
SB ($1832)
BB ($5920)
UTG ($1102)

Preflop: wpr101 is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $30.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 raises to $220</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $220, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $160.

Flop: ($720) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, wpr101 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $520</font>, UTG folds, wpr101 folds.

Final Pot: $1240

HERE_2_gamble_ 07-04-2007 11:50 AM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
hate c/f.
Much harder to put an accurate range on him.
jj and 10 10 are deff in his range.
Id rather bet, or atleast call his.

Hercules 07-04-2007 11:58 AM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
I don`t play 10/20 and usually don`t answer to threads way above my limit.
But i found this to interesting:)

IMO you have to bet the flop, in order not to get bluffed out by TT/JJ (which may not even think that they`re bluffing).
Or do you ever check aces/kings on this great board?


My other question is, if it would be reasonable to bet most turns again, if called by one of the Villains (you would have foldet to a flop push) to make them fold KK. Mainly because its fullring or does nobody ever fold kings here?

Is it right to assume that you`re beat if called?

TheWorstPlayer 07-04-2007 12:07 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
i probably c/c, c/f. You guys are almost 300bb deep so he can call many lower pairs for set value here (although not closing the action, it's not terrific, but UTG pretty much would have to have AA to reraise given this action.)

07-04-2007 01:49 PM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

HERE_2_gamble_ 07-04-2007 01:53 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
[ QUOTE ]
i probably c/c, c/f. You guys are almost 300bb deep so he can call many lower pairs for set value here (although not closing the action, it's not terrific, but UTG pretty much would have to have AA to reraise given this action.)

[/ QUOTE ]

140bb

TheWorstPlayer 07-04-2007 01:56 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
yea i'm retarded. comment still stands, though.

iRock 07-04-2007 01:57 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
If you are going to play QQ this weak/soft i'd just be cold calling preflop. I think you have either a bet on the flop or a c/r for you here, depending on the player. Check/folding is a bad line against almost anyone.

king_of_drafts 07-04-2007 02:02 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
Jeez, don't c/f, at least c-c and reeval next street.

TheWorstPlayer 07-04-2007 02:11 PM

Re: 10/20 FR: QQ hand I think I misplayed
 
[ QUOTE ]
I do not like c/c here as getting zero info on Villain

[/ QUOTE ]
Getting zero info on the flop is fine because we look to be ahead of his range and we expect him to bet pretty much all holdings. If he bets AGAIN on the turn, then THAT gives us a LOT of info...


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