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Bond18 10-10-2007 12:28 AM

Common spot i suck at
 
Stars 109. No antes. When you raise a hand like this and get 2 over cards, assuming villain average/unknown/etc. IDk, wtf?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5670
Hero: t2825
MP1: t1925
MP2: t3600
MP3: t7683
CO: t4538
Button: t1905
SB: t1625
BB: t3975

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t600</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t900)</font>, 4 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1500, 2 players)
Hero??

Paul Thomson 10-10-2007 12:43 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
check call flop. check fold turn is my default.

mikeJ 10-10-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
I bet/call 700.

ZJ123 10-10-2007 02:53 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
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I bet/call 700.

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meh, seems spewy.

curtains 10-10-2007 02:59 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
I dont like open raising for 1/4th-1/5th your stack here (or nearly ever for that matter).

If I did raise it'd be like 400-525 or simply open allin (although the allin is pretty thin, but can't be horrible if you just want to snatch some smallish +EV and of course people may call with worse hands like 88, 99 etc). But I really don't like the raise to 600 for a lot of reasons. If there were antes of like 10 through 25 I'd open allin for sure.


Also you can't really check call the flop and check fold the turn as someone mentioned, your stack is only slightly larger than the pot on the flop.

Mench 10-10-2007 03:06 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
i open here to like 500 almost always. can induce more shoves from worse. on this flop i check and see what develops, and usually just give up if my opponent puts any pressure on me.

mikeJ 10-10-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
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I bet/call 700.

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meh, seems spewy.

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What can I says? I am bad the pokers.

auc hincloss 10-10-2007 06:52 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
check call flop, check/fold turn if unimproved

Mr.WeakTight 10-10-2007 07:07 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
my general rule -

one overcard = c bet
two or more overcards = don't c bet.

so I would c/fold this flop.

Todd Terry 10-10-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Common spot i suck at
 
This type of spot, along with my belief that a jam is getting called with a wider range than a standard raise is getting 3bet, is why I shove pre here.

As played, I'd bet/fold 900. I just think this flop is unlikely to have hit Villain's range. AK is impossible, AQ is highly unlikely unless he sucks, ditto for KQ. Yeah, KK is remotely possible, but playing KK like this against someone who is almost undoubtedly calling a 3bet with 4 people left behind you isn't too smart unless one of the people behind you is superaggro and you're trying to induce a squeeze. In addition to not being in Villain's range, the flop is squarely within your range, so no one is calling/raising your c-bet light here.


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