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ouwep 11-21-2007 11:42 AM

Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
I don't have SNGWiz, only SNGPT...

Is this a good call?

What ranges should villains have to make it a fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t1490)
Button (t7020)
SB (t1640)
Hero (t2580)
UTG (t1370)
MP1 (t1610)
MP2 (t4290)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 is all-in [t1610] , <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls [t1490] , <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1210.

Thank you,

Wessel
The Netherlands

lamboruns 11-21-2007 11:48 AM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
I dont think its a good call...you best hope would be to be against 2 overs and an under pair..which would make you 45% roughly...against an OP and 2 overs your 20% to win...and against 3 or 4 overs your a big dog..

RexWoo 11-21-2007 12:06 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
I would call if it was not already called.

Now I think it does not look good. I fold.

auc hincloss 11-21-2007 12:09 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
yeah. not good. agree w/ Rex if CO doesn't call im calling.

ouwep 11-21-2007 12:19 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
Is it also a fold if MP1 his range is very wide and CO knows this?

Could I see some numbers, mabey?

aghasax 11-21-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
I disagree this is a fold, you're getting about 3:1 and probably have close to 33% equity against their ranges. There are many left on the table so there is not that big difference between CEV and $EV, and they are both short so they wont have that tight ranges.

sence25 11-21-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
Good call.
pusher on 10%, caller on 7% seems to be the breakeven range.

vers 11-21-2007 05:27 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
pusher is on way more than 10% here w/ 4BB I think. Getting laid a pretty good price and having the possibility of overlapping cards by opponents (aces/kings, etc) makes this a good call I think.

ouwep 11-22-2007 09:48 AM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
[ QUOTE ]
Good call.
pusher on 10%, caller on 7% seems to be the breakeven range.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who I am really suprised by this! Thank you for the math sence25.

RexWoo 11-22-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Party $33 BB w/88 two all-ins in front
 
Very surprised also but this is probably because you have the biggest stack and can still play if you lose.


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