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NHFunkii 09-05-2006 02:24 AM

400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
no reads, just sat down an orbit ago

how's the flop play here? Does anyone rereraise? I figure that'll just get him to fold kings here. how about the rest of the hand?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($263.10)
Hero ($365.60)
UTG ($429)
MP ($158.25)
CO ($860.90)
Button ($470.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($8) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($64) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, SB calls $84.

River: ($264) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $233.6 (All-In)</font>

tubasteve 09-05-2006 02:25 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
I feel like you should be checking behind on the river

BDaws 09-05-2006 03:10 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
I like calling when he raises to 28 on the flop. It's really hard to get 65 BB's into a 2 BB pot on the flop and actually be ahead.

On the turn it looks like he's trying to price himself in on a draw so I like your turn raise amount. However, when I see a retarded donk/block bet followed by a call, it's almost always a weak made hand or a draw.
Considering that, I would check behind on the river a good amount because clubs are folding and most K's aren't calling unless they made two pair.

One hand this is great against is AcXc, but I don't think he 3 bets that on the flop.

Lucky 09-05-2006 03:15 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
just calling his c/r on flop is good. If all money goes in, you're behind to his KT/K5/55.

On turn, he tells you he's on draw and isnt releases. On river, you're value betting, i.e. you want him to call. Think about what he has. Looks like flush draw, maybe with weak king, maybe he picked up ace on turn, but expect him to think his holding is marginal and not call your big bet. I think about 100 is good here.

edit: maybe even only 80.

nutsflopper 09-05-2006 05:31 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
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One hand this is great against is AcXc, but I don't think he 3 bets that on the flop.

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i really think this is his hand.

NoahSD 09-05-2006 11:14 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
I agree with lucky.. river bet's too big.

NT! 09-05-2006 11:57 AM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
good except i check river... every time I push he has A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

NT

quickfetus 09-05-2006 12:09 PM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
Turn raise is very aggressive, but probably good. Dunno, I probably exercise pot control too much in spots like this. Checking behind looks better on river; he probably either has either a busted draw or something which has you smoked. I can't think of anything which pays us off here.

Quickfetus

ASmith84 09-05-2006 12:17 PM

Re: 400NL bottom two pair blind v blind
 
I'd check down the river.. only way he's calling your push is if he has you beat, too many Kx or Ax hands could have paired up by that point.

NHFunkii 09-05-2006 01:59 PM

results
 
well he also had T5o amusingly enough and called my push. I was mostly unsure about the river bet but I figured it's quite possible he couldn't let go of an ace and I didn't think he'd check many hands that beat me on the river. Still not sure about it, but I think I maybe should have checked.


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