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Bruut99 11-11-2007 01:17 PM

JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
Villain is 26/16/2 and decent. Fold, call or shove?
Elaborate please.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($25.40)
Hero ($182.50)
BB ($113.60)
UTG ($106.50)
MP ($64.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $39</font>

AlanDyer 11-11-2007 01:47 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
looks like a set or flush/straight draw + pair combo to me, although the fact that he smooth called preflop makes it hard to put him on a hand much better than yours, still, i'd fold the first time but if he keeps it up etc..

Bruut99 11-11-2007 02:46 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
more people folding this?

DaGrunt 11-11-2007 03:03 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
Fold seems good

Bruut99 11-11-2007 03:08 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
care to elaborate?

gostatego 11-11-2007 03:14 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
that raise looks like he got there.

facetongue 11-11-2007 03:16 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
I would fold. He's raising you $25 into a $73 pot. If you call, on the river he'll have $64 left and the pot will be $98. Since it looks like he's trying to commit you to calling the rest of his stack on the river, you should fold. It might be different if you had AA, since his range sometimes includes KK and QQ, but even then you are probably facing a set, possibly 2 pair or a completed gutshot, so I would probably still fold.

TheLemonShark 11-11-2007 05:11 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
Definately fold.

Merlinius 11-11-2007 05:26 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
call flop, raise turn in position is rarely a draw. most people would raise the flop with a flush-/straight-/combo-draw. -&gt; easy fold

DaGrunt 11-11-2007 05:32 PM

Re: JJ overpair getting reraised on the turn.
 
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care to elaborate?

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What are u ahead of that u wanna play stacks with? TT? A9? 78 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? If he's not a complete moron just fold it. There's almost no hands your ahead of that play like this and tons of hands your behind of. Plus like Merlinius said that raise looks exactly like a "i-want-to-commit-you-for-the-river" -kind of raise.


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