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recallme 11-03-2007 12:48 PM

Should i shove on of the 2?
 
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $4565.40
CO: $1489
Button: $1960
SB: $1998
BB: $1990

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($220, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $170</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $440</font>, BB folds,

Villain is Empire2000, a very good reg imho. Is this an easy 3bet/shove?

2. No read here, besides he`s on the tag side

Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1301
UTG+1: $1471
CO: $2942.45
Button: $2932.05
SB: $640.05
BB: $1000

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $70</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($215, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($215, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $140</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($495, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $310</font>,

Is there any value in shoving?

king_of_drafts 11-03-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
fold 1 call 2

WelshChip 11-03-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
the guy cold called a raise and a re-raise, AA is the only hand that beats us in the second one.

edit : small RR nvm

imozyslow 11-03-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
i agree just call in hand 2.

crabby,

if we were CO in hand 1, would that change your opinion at all -- i mean we do have the niggity nuts after all.

MATT111 11-03-2007 01:50 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
Calling2 is too weak imo. There`s one combo that beats us and tons of hands we are ahead of.

hardkAre 11-03-2007 02:04 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
Hand 1:

Without any history; I'd fold flop.

Hand 2:

Raise turn, now call.

recallme 11-03-2007 02:15 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
H1: Sry obviously we play against each other a lot and he knows i am aggro and cbetting often. Nothing special this session.

tcorbin16 11-03-2007 02:49 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
wow.

intel 11-04-2007 09:54 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
mmm isnt recall a descent player?

anyway i think these hands are pretty straight forward, 1. fold 2. call

avd7a 11-04-2007 10:47 PM

Re: Should i shove on of the 2?
 
hand 1: I think folding is wayyyy too nitty. Call CRAI if he has high turn aggro or 3 bet if he doesnt cbet turn often.
hand 2: raise min and fold to a reraise?


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