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mkind0516 11-22-2007 01:58 AM

AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4253241135: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 16 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:05:52 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: GH_moron (133,884)
Seat 2: gboro780 (94,394)
Seat 3: redrumxxx (74,021)
Seat 4: Rudildos (106,873)
Seat 5: outoforbit (107,335)
Seat 6: Connecto (56,948)
Seat 7: Hava Nagila (52,050)
Seat 8: Pokerdossi (60,495)
GH_moron antes 300
gboro780 antes 300
redrumxxx antes 300
Rudildos antes 300
outoforbit antes 300
Connecto antes 300
Hava Nagila antes 300
Pokerdossi antes 300
Hava Nagila posts the small blind of 1,200
Pokerdossi posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hava Nagila [Ah Kh]
GH_moron folds
gboro780 has 15 seconds left to act
gboro780 raises to 6,250
redrumxxx folds
Rudildos raises to 19,200
outoforbit folds
Connecto folds
Hava Nagila has 15 seconds left to act
Hava Nagila has requested TIME
Hava Nagila ????


Final table of $50/15k on FTP. We're like 20 hands into the final table and so far, Gboro has played like 1 hand. The other guy is a total monkey who has played like half of the hands. Your play?

gobboboy 11-22-2007 01:59 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
I'M ARRIN.

djk123 11-22-2007 02:03 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x145/mhrep/Shove.jpg

JesseB_11 11-22-2007 02:04 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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mkind0516 11-22-2007 02:37 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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lol

MaverickUSC 11-22-2007 06:46 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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I'M ARRIN.

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overthaline 11-22-2007 06:52 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
jopke post?

AcTiOnJaCsOn 11-22-2007 10:49 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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jopke post?

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ya, ez all in, im guessing since u posted then monkey had AA and u got coolered

mkind0516 11-22-2007 04:26 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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jopke post?

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Why would this be a joke? You're pushing AK w/ very little/if any fold equity in a spot where you would think you're gunna get called by a pair that u r racing with. Just because you have AK doesn't mean you have to go all-in, regardless of the action. I think anyone who just insta pushes AK here w/o thinking about the hand is certainly making a major mistake: it's AK, not AA.

Bakes 11-22-2007 04:43 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
i mean you didn't say [censored] about ranges and your equity against them. you are obviously ahead of gboros range no matter how tight he is, and you gave the read of hte reraiser as a total monkey...and its not even deep stacked by any loose definition of the term. AK actually does = AA here in terms of the amount of times I would fold either hand in this spot.

Dice Spadez 11-22-2007 06:25 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
Auto Push....

Honestly you have premium starting hand. You DO have some fold equity, not to mention you would be putting the tight nit in a PRIME squeeze play bro... ALL IN ALL DAY!

Todd Terry 11-23-2007 12:41 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
Unless the 3bettor has been 3betting a lot or you've seen him 3bet a tight EP raiser light, I'd fold here. If they both call, your equity is around 32%, if just one of them calls, in all likelihood you're behind because the other one folded an A.

There was a hand posted by Shannon Shorr a few days ago which was a very similar spot, except belowabove was the EP raiser and the 3bettor jammed for a huge amount above below's initial raise.

Edit: If they both call, your equity's lower, around 28-27%. I was using their opening ranges to get 32%, if you tighten up gboro's range to a reasonable calling range, {JJ+,AK} (it may be tighter), you drop to 28%.

overthaline 11-24-2007 09:52 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
you say the reraiser is a monkey.. so you're way ahead of his range... and gboro has become the anti-nit recently so he's auto-mucking.. I can't imagine folding here.

s33w33d 11-24-2007 10:35 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
The only reason you're posting this is because the monkey showed up with a hand, but if he's truly playing half the hands, you have to shove. 8th place shouldn't have been a tragic payday.

HoosierAlum 11-24-2007 11:07 AM

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AK actually does = AA here in terms of the amount of times I would fold either hand in this spot.

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mkind0516 11-24-2007 12:28 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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The only reason you're posting this is because the monkey showed up with a hand, but if he's truly playing half the hands, you have to shove. 8th place shouldn't have been a tragic payday.

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I fold AK here better then half of the time, so I highly doubt that's the reason. I tend not to overplay the hand, what can I say? I'd rather shove 23o w/ FE, then push AK to 2-raises w/o fe. Nevertheless, I decided to go w/ the AK and Gboro snap shoved over the top w/ AA. To add insult to injury, the board came down KxxKA jhgdjfdjhfdjh

djk123 11-24-2007 01:25 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
after doing some mathematical analysis, you clearly should have folded. what were you thinking?

20,547,648 games 0.005 secs 4,109,529,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.141% 11.51% 00.63% 2365572 129018.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 87.859% 87.23% 00.63% 17924040 129018.00 { AA }

Bakes 11-24-2007 01:29 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
Will you quit it DJK!! This man makes videos ffs.

gboro 11-26-2007 07:08 PM

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Final table of $50/15k on FTP. We're like 20 hands into the final table and so far, Gboro has played like 1 hand.

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lol that number is probably closer to zero. full tilt actually spazzed out on me with 9 or 10 left in this tournament. if you check the hh i think i was sitting out for the first 20 or 25 hands of the ft.

mhoddi took over for me and busted you b4 i got back on 6 handed. now i gotta start using that 6250 raise though.

ChipRick 11-26-2007 11:07 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
chuv

mkind0516 11-26-2007 11:42 PM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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Final table of $50/15k on FTP. We're like 20 hands into the final table and so far, Gboro has played like 1 hand.

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lol that number is probably closer to zero. full tilt actually spazzed out on me with 9 or 10 left in this tournament. if you check the hh i think i was sitting out for the first 20 or 25 hands of the ft.

mhoddi took over for me and busted you b4 i got back on 6 handed. now i gotta start using that 6250 raise though.

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Fkn Arab crooks

yellowsub 11-27-2007 06:33 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
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after doing some mathematical analysis, you clearly should have folded. what were you thinking?

20,547,648 games 0.005 secs 4,109,529,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 12.141% 11.51% 00.63% 2365572 129018.00 { AKs }
Hand 1: 87.859% 87.23% 00.63% 17924040 129018.00 { AA }

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i actually lol'd nh dan

shaundeeb 11-27-2007 06:57 AM

Re: AK facing 2 raises at $50 FT
 
djk #1
Betgo #2
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Mkind#516

WOULD ANNETE FOLD AKO HERE NO SHE WOULDN'T

BUT SHE'S A WINNER AND WOULD OF NOT HAVE GOTTEN RIVERED LIKE YOU


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