1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

1/2 Live NL

Six way limped pot. I have 87o on the button and am 250BB deep.

Flop is Th9s6h. (Pot $12)

Checked to me. I bet $10 and get 3 callers, one of whom is villain who has me covered and whom I've never played with before.

Turn is Qc. (Pot $52)

Checked to me. I bet $50. 1 call, 1 fold, then villain c/r's and makes it $150. I call. SB folds.

River is a brick. Villain checks to me. I check behind.

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

Given Turn action, I don't think Villain is checking KJ/J8 here expecting you to bet again. I also don't think he's folding something like AQ/2 pair to a reasonable value bet.

There's $400 or so in the pot and you've got $350 left behind? I think $100 is getting called by any decent hand getting 5:1.

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

I'd just shove the turn, or at least vb river if i didn't.

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

Gross. without a sick read youve got to believe your ahead of his range. He could easily be on a set, two pair, or some whiffed combo draw. Valuebet this and maybe fold to a big raise.

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

Given the pot and my stack size, I couldn't see folding to a river c/r.

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

Feelix,

Are you calling an open shove on the river by him? Answering this question should help answer yours...

Re: 1/2 Live. Weak or prudent?
 

Honestly, I was undecided, which is why I didn't shove the turn. Against the vast majority of regulars I play against, I shove with little hesitation, but I did not know this guy at all other than that he was capable of a check raise.

When he checked the river I thought he either had the nuts or a hand too weak to call any river bet, but I felt icky checking it down.

FWIW, he had flopped bottom two pair (69), which given the way he played it sheds a lot of light on the kind of player he is. I told him straight out that he should have shoved the river, and he said "Are you nuts?" which shed further light. I'll play better against him next time, but obviously I left a little money on the table in that hand.

An occasional but consistent leak in my game is too tighten up in potentially big pots when I have a big stack against other big stacks. I fight the tendency and often succeed (especialy as my BR has grown), but this was one case where I got hobbled by uncertainty.