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Oasis88 05-14-2007 10:35 PM

$6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t2080)
SB (t625)
Hero (t2075)
UTG (t8720)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t250) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t450) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, Hero folds.



Preflop, what do you think is best between a shove, raise to 400-450ish, check?

As played, should I bet out on the flop, check/float it, or check/fold?

Any other advice on this hand is appreciated. Thanks!

BadBeatsCrewDerk 05-14-2007 10:40 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
I'm thinking I play this the same way, which may very well be the wrong way. I could also see check/folding the flop as a decent way to go. I am not trying to get tricky preflop with &gt;20BB and a short stack on the bubble.

sence25 05-14-2007 10:43 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
you're a bit to deep for shoving this pf..
i'd raise it up to 250/300 and cbet the flop

phishstiiix 05-14-2007 11:32 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
i think in this spot i would raise preflop to 300 or so. I would cont bet for 400 and obv fold to a raise.

ADLinden 05-14-2007 11:35 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
You don't wanna get a in a coinflip here with the shorty still there.

Pudge714 05-14-2007 11:36 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
Shove preflop.
Call turn.

phishstiiix 05-14-2007 11:41 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
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Shove preflop.

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i don't understand pushing for 20 bbs against another middlestack with a shorty on the bubble. Is it really worth the 250 chips to risk a coinflip/ being dominated by his calling range? Expecially since at a $6.50 his calling range is probably not as tight as it should be.

sippin_criss 05-14-2007 11:49 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
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Shove preflop.

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i don't understand pushing for 20 bbs against another middlestack with a shorty on the bubble. Is it really worth the 250 chips to risk a coinflip/ being dominated by his calling range? Expecially since at a $6.50 his calling range is probably not as tight as it should be.

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TT isnt flipping/dominated vs a loose donks range.

phishstiiix 05-14-2007 11:53 PM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
The only opponent's hand that i'm happy to risk stacking off against in this spot is a lower pocket pair or two undercards(im not happy coming up against Ax as a 70% favourite). I just don't see even a loose donk calling with unpaired cards both below Ten.

That leaves just 22-99 as a range that i would be happy to come up against, and this isn't likely enough as a proportion of a "loose donk"s calling range for my liking. Just a regular raise for me.

Little John 05-15-2007 12:07 AM

Re: $6.50 - Wierd spot with TT on bubble
 
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The only opponent's hand that i'm happy to risk stacking off against in this spot is a lower pocket pair or two undercards(im not happy coming up against Ax as a 70% favourite). I just don't see even a loose donk calling with unpaired cards both below Ten.

That leaves just 22-99 as a range that i would be happy to come up against, and this isn't likely enough as a proportion of a "loose donk"s calling range for my liking. Just a regular raise for me.

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If you are not willing to stack off vs Ax you are throwing away 1.1% of the prize pool (about $.57) You dont want to get in the habbit of doing this real often.


But raising is also +EV so if you are more comfortable and can handle a flop OOP with an overcard I think it is fine as well.


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