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VeraN 10-15-2007 03:57 AM

Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
Situation: Player A has been playing for a while and decides to leave for a lunch break. During his lunch break a physical fight breaks out from an adjacent table resulting in a person being knocked onto player A's table, causing player A, B, and C's chip stacks to fall in a complete mess. None of the chips fell to the floor - all chips are accounted for and are on the table.

Question 1: What is the standard casino protocol in this situation in terms of returning the chips to the players? Will the hostiles be liable for this event?

Question 2: Players A, B, and C are all honest players and have a general idea about how much they had but not an accurate figure. They all cannot come to an agreement and claim they had more than what was distributed. How does the casino solve this problem?

bav 10-15-2007 04:10 AM

Re: Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
If we're talking $20, casino either ponies up 4 $5 chips to make the customers happy (small price to pay), asks surveillance if they can see the exact stack sizes pre-fight, writes a comp or two in lieu of the $20, or just says "not our problem" and ticks off a customer or three.

Rick Nebiolo 10-15-2007 04:59 AM

Re: Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
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If we're talking $20, casino either ponies up 4 $5 chips to make the customers happy (small price to pay), asks surveillance if they can see the exact stack sizes pre-fight, writes a comp or two in lieu of the $20, or just says "not our problem" and ticks off a customer or three.

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About a year ago I'm in the nine seat (next to the dealer in LA) and the super action player who was sort of semi-psycho donkey is on my right and has about eleven racks of $5 ($5500 or so) stacked up one on top of each other emulating a giant penis shaped mess. Meanwhile I have about $1500 neatly arranged in 20 chip stacks in the shape of let's say for the sake of the story "a neatly trimmed vagina". The game is getting short and I'm still hoping to double through this guy and hate to leave even though I have to take a piss real bad. Finally I can't hold it any more and go to the men's room. As I come back the game has broken and his chips are in a giant pile covering all my chips which are now in a quivering mess of protoplasmic disarray.

The point is the security cameras couldn't tell how high my stacks were so we had to figure things out on our own. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick

TJayBird 10-15-2007 05:36 AM

Re: Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
That's a hot story.

I've always wondered what would happen if on the first day of a WSOP ME a player busts and just flips the table right over. Would they pause the tourny while they sorted it out, or would those players just miss a few hands?

youtalkfunny 10-15-2007 05:45 PM

Re: Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
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Players A, B, and C are all honest players and have a general idea about how much they had but not an accurate figure. They all cannot come to an agreement and claim they had more than what was distributed.

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The second sentence contradicts the first.

BTW, this happened to me before. The stacks belonged to the combatants, so I threw them out without caring if the numbers were right.

If the cameras had zoomed in to examine the stack before the fight, the chips could have been counted. But there was no reason to do so until after the milk had been spilled.

AngusThermopyle 10-15-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Question About Chip Mess Situation
 
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Players A, B, and C are all honest players and have a general idea about how much they had but not an accurate figure. They all cannot come to an agreement and claim they had more than what was distributed.

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The second sentence contradicts the first.

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How?
Each legitimately thought they had $150
In reality, they had $140 each.


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