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longlags 07-05-2007 06:19 AM

444 against reraised flop
 
I got no reads on the opponent (SB), this is his one of his first played hands. No previous info on him.

I am BB.

NL 0.5/1$

Dealt to me 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
MP raises to 3.5$
SB call
BB call
Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets 5$, SB calls, BB raises to 15$, MP folds, SB raises to all in.

BB?

Comments about the play? Should I reraise pre flop?

sixhigh 07-05-2007 06:22 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
Reraising pre is an option, but since both are unknown and you are getting nice odds a call is probably better. I don't mind c/r'ing this flop, but make it a bigger one and stick your money when SB pushes - you are only losing to one reasonable hand here.

paulnic 07-05-2007 06:30 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
u have to be ahead here, most probably against a big ace, at worst i expect to see a6. insta shove imo. im not sure about reraising preflop the only flop u will be happy to see is one with a 4 on it really. i like call here.

longlags 07-05-2007 06:36 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
I thought of this,
we both flopped something and waited to see MP's action.
MP probably was crap (KQ, something like that)

I didn't think SB is on A-high or 2 pairs else I should've expect raise on MPs bet. something worries me about his cold call to the fair bet.

the hand range was-
SB slow playing AA hoping one of the players hit an A
SB slow playing 66, puting me on A-high.
SB playing 75s and couldn't hold it to call another raise.

sixhigh 07-05-2007 06:42 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
I agree, SB is showing a strong line and i wouldn't be too surprised to see 666 here, but an unknown NL100-player will show you random bs way more often than that. FWIW he might be playing AJo this way thinking he just has flopped the nuts.

Nick Royale 07-05-2007 07:05 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
I assume 100bb stacksizes. Easy call. If he has 66, then too bad. AA is possible but less likely than 66. This will be AK-AT/A6/A4 or some other garbage way more often than AA/66.

longlags 07-05-2007 07:42 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
I didn't fold here while I felt it gonna blast in my face.

His cold call and all in where very confident moves, I didn't pick any hesitation.
I called knowing I am probably going to say bye bye to a nice piece of my stack, and saw his trip 6's taking the pot.

Sciolist 07-05-2007 08:15 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
It's a dry board and so you're going to see sets and two pairs frequently. The thing is that a good regular would probably not play the hand this fast because he wants you to be calling with your aces against his set (call flop check raise then get it in on any turn). So I'd be thinking call until I've seen him play more often...

Elverian 07-05-2007 08:19 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
Agreed, if you are against AA or 66 that's just unlucky

reef2287 07-05-2007 09:07 AM

Re: 444 against reraised flop
 
never reraise preflop with 4's oop unless the original raiser is a nit and will fold to most flops, as played easy call


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