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DeucesNeverLoses 07-24-2007 04:51 AM

Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
9 handed game $300 max buy in. Effective stacks are $300. All fold to me OTB with JJ. I raise to $20, SB calls, BB folds.

Villain is unknown, just sat down 3 hands ago but doubled up when he cold called $25 preflop with 79o in CO and flopped 2 pair vs. QQ. Seems like a donkey.

Flop ($45) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain leads for $20, I just call.

Turn ($85) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I bet $40. He calls.

River ($165) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain checks, I pause for awhile thinking he really can't have anything here and bet $95, he just calls.

Final Pot ($355)

Comments/suggestions on different line or any streets appreciated [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Praetor 07-24-2007 05:02 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
raise the flop

DeucesNeverLoses 07-24-2007 05:07 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
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raise the flop

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My standard raise in that game was 3x whatever someone bet, so go to like $60?

grac 07-24-2007 05:17 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
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raise the flop

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My standard raise in that game was 3x whatever someone bet, so go to like $60?

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ahh liveaments.

vhawk01 07-24-2007 05:24 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
If you bet more on the turn you can bet more on the river. I don't think you have to raise the flop, depends on how good you are at acting though.

terp 07-24-2007 05:42 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
this hand reminds me why i would be rich if they could only deal faster and people didn't hollywood for five minutes before finally folding ace high.

OP, this is a 60bb game and you failed to get all in with top set. this is pretty much a crime.

aiverson0323 07-24-2007 07:37 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
def raise flop to 60 ish maybe more, push out the donkey right lol..i check turn to induce bluff on river, or flush lol...it depends on how much he bets....i think u call anyway..KP

ijustliketoplay 07-24-2007 11:35 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
i think it might be better to raise flop (to $70 maybe?) on this specific board (very draw heavy, lots of action killing cards). you are also against someone who has just doubled up and is probably feeling lucky/likes to gamble.

Then the rest of the hand plays much simpler as the pot is so much bigger.

ikestoys 07-24-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
stopped reading when you called with the nuts on a drawy board

paulnic 07-24-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Flop top set $3/$5 NL Live, different line maybe?
 
yeah come on u cannot check call this flop... this is a very drawy board and u are checking here...?? u have top set. u want to get paid. so bet!


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