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cs3 11-30-2007 07:00 PM

KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
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BB is a squeeze happy tagfish. he gets a hardon evrytime there is a late pos raise and a a call in front of him. rarely just calls form the blinds

main villain is CO and is a regular and most likely a 2p2er. Hes petty solid and very very aggro. Wins tons of pots w/o showdown. He steals every chance he gets and auto c-bets/raises almsot any flop... his flop AF is ~14, turn and river are both infinte over several hundered hands. He runs at 21/17/5 overall

we were on a couple tables together at the time but hadnt really played any signifigant pots yet. i had 3 bet him several times PF and he folded each time. i had been gettting lots of good hands and been pretty aggro in general, so villain probably thinks im LAGier than i actually am</font>

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $23.45
CO: $97.50
BTN: $105.40
Hero (SB): $129.35
BB: $103.55

Pre-Flop: Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.50, BB folds
<font color="blue"> CO has almost any 2, i obv 3 betnear 100% of the time here, but i though tthis was an ok time to call because i expected BB to squeeze or fold, so i would either be able to shove PF or play HU vs the aggro CO with a hand that crushes his range </font>

Flop: ($9) 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $55</font> HERO???

<font color="blue"> what do you think of my flop ch/r? anything else to do on the flop given PF?
and now that he 3 bets the flop what are we doin?</font>

hotbacon 11-30-2007 07:02 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the BB
 
ez stick in given history

spivey 11-30-2007 07:03 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the BB
 
CR flop is definitely good. As played, you have to go all in. Stacks aren't deep enough to call and check/call all in, he won't think he has any FE on the turn if he's bluffing here.

Definitely don't think folding is an option with your read.

LT22 11-30-2007 07:03 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the BB
 
gotta play for stacks after you just called PF and c/r flop

orange 11-30-2007 07:07 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the BB
 
if you c/r fold this flop...lol. well, just dont do it. stack off obv.

blink20 11-30-2007 07:15 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
Kings look really good in this spot, especially given you check raised an aggr player on a rainbow board, he's gonna put a bluff in your range a decent amount of time and that 55 could just be a creative bet. Also he's prob gonna get it in here with QQ-10 10 most likely.

You probably don't run into a set too often as this is almost the ideal spot to stop and go if you are the villian with a set, however its also not a bad spot to juice the flop with a set if he thinks you have a big hand also.

All in all, your chips with kings go in the middle everytime in this spot.

Also out of c uriosity, who were the two villians in the hand, who's the squeeze happy tag fish.

ikestoys 11-30-2007 07:17 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
i understand going for the resqueeze, but crazy squeezers do it at most 20% of the time... don't overestimate how often he's doing it.

Paul Thomson 11-30-2007 07:18 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
donk flop

cs3 11-30-2007 07:24 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
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i understand going for the resqueeze, but crazy squeezers do it at most 20% of the time... don't overestimate how often he's doing it.

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i thouhgt it was pretty likely, but obv not a sure thing. i was pretty confident that he would raise/fold though. he hadnt cold called at all yet. and i didnt really mind playing OOP HU vs the CO with a really strong hand - should i though?
also i thought it was a spot where if i 3 bet, CO folds like 95% of the time.

cs3 11-30-2007 07:28 PM

Re: KK vs a reg - i coldcall in the SB
 
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donk flop

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why? b/3b on the flop looks waay too strong because CO would put me on a set pretty much 100% of the time on that dry ass board, and would have a pretty easy fold with any overpair with not a whole lot of money commited to the pot.

i can see a case for donking flop/calling a raise, then stackadonk turn, but my line accomplishes pretty much the exact same thing right? but makes me more money when villain is fos/decides to make a big fold, and costs me the same amount when vilain has AA/sets

also flop ch/r on a dry board looks pretty damn bluffy, no?


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