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06-16-2007 09:55 AM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

Ship Ship McGipp 06-16-2007 11:05 AM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
he is lyinig, just call

king_of_drafts 06-16-2007 01:17 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
Yah, and sign every post with that awesome muppet drumming vid

SlowHabit 06-16-2007 01:54 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
I would just let the Russians lend each other chips. The game is more profitable than another grinder sitting there.

In the second hand, are stacks still 5k? If so, I smile and fold.

The Icon 06-16-2007 03:09 PM

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it's at least another 200bb to you (assuming approx 4k more since he lost some last hand)? I'd probably fold and am not sure about the ruling.

I'm assuming floor let his hand play.

[censored] russians
"Hey! If you want to see this seventh card you're gonna stop speakin' [censored]' Sputnick."

jfish 06-16-2007 03:28 PM

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it's at least another 200bb to you (assuming approx 4k more since he lost some last hand)? I'd probably fold and am not sure about the ruling.

I'm assuming floor let his hand play.

[censored] russians
"Hey! If you want to see this seventh card you're gonna stop speakin' [censored]' Sputnick."

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muslims were getting boring.

WuTank 06-16-2007 03:28 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
yeah fold.
Lose your money back to them,make it look good.

xxThe_Lebowskixx 06-16-2007 03:34 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
v ez fold

Cornell Fiji 06-16-2007 03:35 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
http://www.bodogbeat.com/archives/ja...-dodgers-2.jpg

Yea, I toss it too.

stigmata 06-16-2007 03:59 PM

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The game is more profitable than another grinder sitting there.

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Kinda side question from this:

Would you rather have 2 equally bad players with stack size X, or one bad player with stack 2X? All I can think off the top of my head is that it doesn't really matter, except 1) The seat will be taken by a good player, as you righly point out and 2) You have a better shot at getting some money with 2 players, although the EV is probably equal, it's just a lower variance thing.

fsuplayer 06-16-2007 04:06 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
the more russians at the table, the better.

oh, and order vodka shots for your new found friends, as a consolation for 'sucking out' on the river in the AJ hand.

NT! 06-16-2007 05:23 PM

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the more russians at the table, the better.

oh, and order vodka shots for your new found friends, as a consolation for 'sucking out' on the river in the AJ hand.

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probably no vodka in this game, but if there is, yeah, that's one way to keep it friendly

that question means one of two things from a russian:

1. let's stay out of each other's way and not go crazy, i will [censored] with someone else. i have to [censored] with someone because i'm a crazy russian, but it won't be you.

2. how strong is your hand? i am going to [censored] you in your capitalist ass.

whenever i am sitting with deep stacks against a russian i like to find out which one it's gonna be ASAP. but your reaction probably depends on your tolerance for variance.
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as for this hand, i probably fold, but hard to say without a live read. what was yours?

NT! 06-16-2007 06:16 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
oh and i hate the reraise in hand 1 man, what is up with that?

jungy121 06-16-2007 07:12 PM

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oh and i hate the reraise in hand 1 man, what is up with that?

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damn someone finally said it. that was horrible lol. and the 3bet size on hand 2? 100 to 700? that's a little too much no? or is this how the game you play at plays.

SuperPokerJedi 06-16-2007 09:42 PM

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Would you rather have 2 equally bad players with stack size X, or one bad player with stack 2X? All I can think off the top of my head is that it doesn't really matter, except 1) The seat will be taken by a good player, as you righly point out and 2) You have a better shot at getting some money with 2 players, although the EV is probably equal, it's just a lower variance thing.

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You do have the added benefit that they won't be sharing info in Sputnik though!

rand 06-16-2007 10:24 PM

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Would you rather have 2 equally bad players with stack size X, or one bad player with stack 2X? All I can think off the top of my head is that it doesn't really matter, except 1) The seat will be taken by a good player, as you righly point out and 2) You have a better shot at getting some money with 2 players, although the EV is probably equal, it's just a lower variance thing.

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You do have the added benefit that they won't be sharing info in Sputnik though!

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to me it depends on my stack size if we are all like 100bbs then i want the 2 bad playrs, if im deep then id rather have another bad player deep then 2bad players at 100bbs

CanIPlayII 06-17-2007 04:26 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
He is on Tilt and Lying, Call.

06-18-2007 10:38 AM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

creedofhubris 06-18-2007 06:14 PM

Re: SB vs BB - I Tell Him What I Have
 
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My questions were more about validity of declared hand in a 3 way pot... is his hand ever dead in a case like this, we were arguing at the game for hours about this. I thought his hand should not be declared DEAD unless he actually showed it in a 3 way pot with further action, the other guys thought it should have been declared dead ???

The 2nd hand I folded and he showed AA

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It's always legal to lie about your hand.

NT! 06-18-2007 06:46 PM

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My questions were more about validity of declared hand in a 3 way pot... is his hand ever dead in a case like this, we were arguing at the game for hours about this. I thought his hand should not be declared DEAD unless he actually showed it in a 3 way pot with further action, the other guys thought it should have been declared dead ???


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IMHO gary, if you want to kill their hand or have the floor take any more action on it, you need to stop the hand before the flop and ask for a ruling. at that point you probably have a case, although my guess is this time it will be a warning. they're going to deny sharing info and unless someone else at the table speaks russian, it can't be proven.

EDIT: that probably applies more to hand 1 than hand 2. in hand 2, no way his hand is killed.

cero_z 06-18-2007 07:43 PM

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My questions were more about validity of declared hand in a 3 way pot... is his hand ever dead in a case like this, we were arguing at the game for hours about this. I thought his hand should not be declared DEAD unless he actually showed it in a 3 way pot with further action, the other guys thought it should have been declared dead ???

The 2nd hand I folded and he showed AA

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It's always legal to lie about your hand.

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Not sure if you're joking, but saying, "I have KK," in a multi-way pot is definitely illegal. However, this rule is pretty much never enforced, so no, you are not going to get more than a warning for the guy--his hand will never be declared dead.


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