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imitation 07-09-2007 04:38 AM

2 imitation style hands.
 
Same villian in both these hands.

Second hand occcurs shortly after the first.

Villian is 26.5/19.5/2 WtSD is 30 Aggressive, somewhat thinking and I think somewhat tight postflop (obviously I think that otherwise my play is possibly even stupider).

I have a pretty agro never lay down approach in this game, I think he knows that I will semi-bluff and bluff raise alot.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, ...

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, ...

I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.

Gurravasa 07-09-2007 05:20 AM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
First hand: I guess your setting upp a river bluff with your semibluffraise on turn? It could work since you could hit that flop an turn from BB. I guess you bet/fold any rivercard except if you complete your straight? Normally I wouldn't try this in such a small pot if I wasn't quite sure it would work against this particular player.

Second hand: I can't see any good reason to raise river since he won't fold any hand that beat you and you will loose an extra BB much more often than you gain one.

mvoss 07-09-2007 05:32 AM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
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I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.

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I agree.

Oink 07-09-2007 07:34 AM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
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I think these hands might actually be totally sucky and spewy actually.

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I agree.

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The only 2 streets I agree with in these two hands are preflop in both. IMO you misplayed postflop badly in both hands.

imitation 07-09-2007 12:51 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
i agree guys but i just wanted to post them cause i basically never have interesting hands that stand out as bad to me.

the only point and i talked with a friend about this on messenger that i can't really find an answer for is the flop in hand 2.

imitation 07-09-2007 12:52 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
oh and guess which one worked and which one didn't

danzasmack 07-09-2007 01:02 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
Hand is is basically you deciding you don't know how to play poker.

pf is obv standard.

Then the flop/turn/river combo show you really had no concept of continuity between streets.

imitation 07-09-2007 01:07 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
dude i know hand 2 is terrible overall but what do you do on the flop?

danzasmack 07-09-2007 01:11 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
Depends on the donker.

But what I was saying is -

if raising the flop is correct, checking the turn is incorrect, and if checking the turn is correct, raising the river is incorrect.

sethypooh21 07-09-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 2 imitation style hands.
 
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Depends on the donker.

But what I was saying is -

if raising the flop is correct, checking the turn is incorrect, and if checking the turn is correct, raising the river is incorrect.

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What Danza said. I also think his point about lack of continuity applies to hand 1 - if you have a semi-bluffy image, what hand can you hold that A) the turn helped and B) you wouldn't have bet the flop; and C) you wouldn't have 3 bet pre? You're basically repping exactly K7 on the turn, which is a minuscule portion of your defending range.


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