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ChipsAhoya 11-16-2007 01:43 AM

Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
Sorry I can't convert tonight; I'm on the mac...

Full Tilt Poker Game #4190880926: FTOPS Event #11 (30641978), Table 26 - 500/1000 Ante 100 - Limit Stud Hi - 0:40:38 ET - 2007/11/16
PokerFreak666 (Observer): win event
Seat 1: SENDIT16 (11,632)
Seat 2: HoyaSDaxa (12,952)
Seat 3: TheMasterJ33 (5,968)
Seat 4: Aaron Bartley (11,726)
Seat 5: dromaha (12,162)
Seat 6: Crisp86 (6,717)
Seat 7: edbinc (29,139)
Seat 8: CaseyTheKid (3,353)
SENDIT16 antes 100
HoyaSDaxa antes 100
TheMasterJ33 antes 100
Aaron Bartley antes 100
dromaha antes 100
Crisp86 antes 100
edbinc antes 100
CaseyTheKid antes 100
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to SENDIT16 [7c]
Dealt to HoyaSDaxa [Jh 2d] [Jc]
Dealt to TheMasterJ33 [Ts]
Dealt to Aaron Bartley [2s]
Dealt to dromaha [4d]
Dealt to Crisp86 [Qh]
Dealt to edbinc [Kh]
Dealt to CaseyTheKid [Qc]
Aaron Bartley is low with [2s]
Aaron Bartley brings in for 150
dromaha folds
Crisp86 folds
edbinc has 15 seconds left to act
iGhetto (Observer): thx
edbinc calls 150
CaseyTheKid completes it to 500
SENDIT16 folds
RealKingKong (Observer): you think out of 600 pro's a FT pro can finish Top 20..
HoyaSDaxa has 15 seconds left to act
HoyaSDaxa folds
TheMasterJ33 folds
Aaron Bartley calls 350
edbinc calls 350

-ChipsAhoya

xxeximusxx 11-16-2007 01:59 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
I like it, i'm a stud noob though. Given the stack to bet size ration this hand is almost impossible to play if villian is aggresive and doesn't give up immediatly if you call.

i think fold is best, or else reraise

ceegee 11-16-2007 02:00 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
Your kicker is not very promising, but I call here. The fact that there is only one completiion to you and only another higher card ahead. If you play tight than this case is a fold everytime, if you are willing to draw to 5th to see what you make then go for it.

ChipsAhoya 11-16-2007 02:38 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
[ QUOTE ]
Your kicker is not very promising, but I call here. The fact that there is only one completiion to you and only another higher card ahead. If you play tight than this case is a fold everytime, if you are willing to draw to 5th to see what you make then go for it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, I may or may not have noticed the dead two. The king just limped after the first Q folded and then the 2nd one completed if that's hard to follow not converted.

-ChipsAhoya

ceegee 11-16-2007 03:32 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
because its late in the tournament you either have to figure people are loosening up a little, your kicker is so dead tho, so I guess it's a standard fold in a tournament. Cash game I'd like to see where it goes.

PoorLawyer 11-16-2007 09:57 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
I like the fold. If I am reading this right, a short stack at the table is raising a bigger limping upcard with a big stack....and you have a lower pair with a dead lower kicker. If the King has anything and calls after you, then you are facing 3 way action against 2 overcards and a guy who may make you put in half your stack to see the river. The raiser must have some sort of hand to tangle with a guy who can put him out. I'd pick a better spot.

roggles 11-16-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
Easy fold With no kicker if you call you're calling because you don't believe him. You will have to pay dearly to find out

Andy B 11-17-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Fold split Jacks? FTOPS $535 HORSE
 
I'm fine with it. I'd guess that the Queen is pretty likely to have Queens, because he will know that other people have seen the dead Queen and will be more likely to look him up with, say, Jacks. I don't think you want to be committing a large chunk of your stack when you're probably behind.


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