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HBomb 11-19-2007 01:46 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What a way to end the night...

I was eyeing down this donk the ENTIREEE night at one of my $50 NL tables. I was able to accumulate a 300+ BB stack at one point but eventually started whittling down to some bad beats and some of his big river bets where I knew he had crap, but just couldn't call with marginal pocket pairs.

Then as I'm considering winding down my session, I notice that he's also been slowly being chipped away by other regulars at my table trying to get a piece of him.

So... I'm now down to roughly 200BB's only and he still has roughly a 300 BB stack.. I get 23s UTG and I decide to open 4x with it... whole table folds around to him where he just smooth calls from the BB OOP.

Flop is 223! (I just flopped a boat, how should I tarp him?@)

I bet $3 into it trying to build the pot, he smooth calls.

Turn is J I believe. I now bet $6, once again he check/calls again.

River is a 5 of spade.
As I'm waiting for him to check, suprisingly he leads into me for $14+ into the already $20 pot... so I'm like, is this really happening? Is he block betting me, thinking he's trapped me up until this point?

I think not, and I know I have to shove here and if he has me coolered with a donked out higher boat, then so be it. And I shove ARRRRIIIINN!!!

I raised $80+ more at $50 NL and he insta calls it! He flips over A4 for just a wheel as I finally took down the donk I couldn't get a grasp (or hands) on for most of the night.

First 400+ BB pot of November.... Ship it.

dawade 11-19-2007 01:49 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
What a way to end the night...

I was eyeing down this donk the ENTIREEE night at one of my $50 NL tables. I was able to accumulate a 300+ BB stack at one point but eventually started whittling down to some bad beats and some of his big river bets where I knew he had crap, but just couldn't call with marginal pocket pairs.

Then as I'm considering winding down my session, I notice that he's also been slowly being chipped away by other regulars at my table trying to get a piece of him.

So... I'm now down to roughly 200BB's only and he still has roughly a 300 BB stack.. I get 23s UTG and I decide to open 4x with it... whole table folds around to him where he just smooth calls from the BB OOP.

Flop is 223! (I just flopped a boat, how should I tarp him?@)

I bet $3 into it trying to build the pot, he smooth calls.

Turn is J I believe. I now bet $6, once again he check/calls again.

River is a 5 of spade.
As I'm waiting for him to check, suprisingly he leads into me for $14+ into the already $20 pot... so I'm like, is this really happening? Is he block betting me, thinking he's trapped me up until this point?

I think not, and I know I have to shove here and if he has me coolered with a donked out higher boat, then so be it. And I shove ARRRRIIIINN!!!

I raised $80+ more at $50 NL and he insta calls it! He flips over A4 for just a wheel as I finally took down the donk I couldn't get a grasp (or hands) on for most of the night.

First 400+ BB pot of November.... Ship it.

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Fold preflop

HBomb 11-19-2007 01:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
On a side note, there's a good chance I'm going to Atlantic City tommorow, thinking about hitting up some 1/2 NL at the Taj to beat up on some grandpa's and asians who just love to gamble... wish me luck... altho I'm tempted to add any possible live winnings to my online roll towards my goal... which I'm not sure if it's being ethical to myself by reaching my goal by only $50 NL online..

corsakh 11-19-2007 02:11 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
23s is a fine hand to raise preflop from any position at the table as long as you have position on the main donk.

I recently noticed that my positional stats are more fluid than I thought they were, and if there is a big donator at the table I build my ranges according to my relative position on him rather than my absolute at the table.

ShipitFMA 11-19-2007 02:21 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Yo brew, whats that site you can subscribe to that ships the pokerstars HH's every day?

Bantam222 11-19-2007 02:35 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I think i remember lilholdem or whatever his name is the really good MTT player once said he would rather raise 23s then a mediocrity hand because at least if he hits, he know people aren't going to be calling his raises with 2s or 3s so if he hits he can be sure he's good

ShipitFMA 11-19-2007 02:37 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i bet lil holdem can't count above 10

derosnec 11-19-2007 02:40 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think i remember lilholdem or whatever his name is the really good MTT player once said he would rather raise 23s then a mediocrity hand because at least if he hits, he know people aren't going to be calling his raises with 2s or 3s so if he hits he can be sure he's good

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tournament players. god bless them.

fozzy71 11-19-2007 02:43 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think i remember lilholdem or whatever his name is the really sorta lucky, but thinks he's good MTT player once said he would rather raise 23s then a mediocrity hand because at least if he hits, he know people aren't going to be calling his raises with 2s or 3s so if he hits he can be sure he's good

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

DaycareInferno 11-19-2007 02:43 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think i remember lilholdem or whatever his name is the really good MTT player once said he would rather raise 23s then a mediocrity hand because at least if he hits, he know people aren't going to be calling his raises with 2s or 3s so if he hits he can be sure he's good

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i guess the one flaw would be that they could have a pair of 4s? what the hell does that even mean?

Bantam222 11-19-2007 02:54 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lol [censored] spell check i make a nice typo and then get quoted 3 times in a row

fozzy71 11-19-2007 03:08 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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lol [censored] spell check i make a nice typo and then get quoted 1,234 times in a row

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fyp, again [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Hendricks433 11-19-2007 03:10 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Got deep in the 24K gtd. Got 99 all in vs AK for the chip lead with 18 left. 389Q and then the dread K. $5600 to first. GG me. FT the Daily B last night too. Probably gonna try playing some more tourneys.

ShipitFMA 11-19-2007 03:11 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
999 > KK ?

Malifous 11-19-2007 03:11 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Got deep in the 24K gtd. Got 99 all in vs AK for the chip lead with 18 left. 389Q and then the dread K. $5600 to first. GG me. FT the Daily B last night too. Probably gonna try playing some more tourneys.

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You won the hand or what?

Micro Donk 11-19-2007 03:24 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ok then...

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $33.30
Hero (CO): $25
BTN: $6.40
SB: $6
BB: $25.30
UTG: $27.20

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1

River: ($3.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG folds

Results: $3.35 Pot ($0.15 Rake)
Hero mucked 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and WON $3.20 (+$1.70 NET)

Speedlimits 11-19-2007 03:40 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thin value betssss

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $157.80
BTN: $49
SB: $73.35
Hero (BB): $54.35

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($19) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls $14

River: ($47) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.85 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $30.85

Results: $108.70 Pot ($2 Rake)
SB mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$54.35 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $106.70 (+$52.35 NET)

bazooka87 11-19-2007 03:58 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Not been a very good day at all [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Busted in $3 rebuy in around 70th for a measly $50, bustoed all the major tourneys I played.
I have a decent stack after an hour in this $30 tourney, fingers crossed.

Micro Donk 11-19-2007 04:07 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
how am i suppose to get hands in when i run horrible every time i play...been like this for at least a week...

thing85 11-19-2007 04:15 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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how am i suppose to get hands in when i run horrible every time i play...been like this for at least a week...

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Keep grinding and know that the more hands you play, the closer you come to getting out of the downswing. If running bad makes you play bad, take a break for a day or 3.

Micro Donk 11-19-2007 04:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thats the thing. im so lazy my sessions do end up being like every 3 days

Hendricks433 11-19-2007 05:47 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Quote:
Got deep in the 24K gtd. Got 99 all in vs AK for the chip lead with 18 left. 389Q and then the dread K. $5600 to first. GG me. FT the Daily B last night too. Probably gonna try playing some more tourneys.



You won the hand or what?


[/ QUOTE ] haha, didnt mean to type 9, flop was like 863QK

corsakh 11-19-2007 06:49 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What a flop.

ShipitFMA 11-19-2007 08:57 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
&lt;3 live poker

Nemesis69 11-19-2007 09:23 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
thats the thing. im so lazy my sessions do end up being like every 3 days

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It will change. The same happened to me this week and yesterday I ran pretty good imo.

billip62 11-19-2007 09:26 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I ran like a champ at the casino the other night, 1/2 NL is easily the biggest donk fest on the planet.

live roll is bigger than online roll now....

orlov 11-19-2007 09:32 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Do I just suck or does poker hate me?

Villain was some kind of weird 40/30 monkey floater o0.

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($50.70)
CO ($38.40)
Button ($43.90)
SB ($50.00) (Hero)
BB ($100.95)
MP2 ($53.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 2.0</font>, BB calls $1.75,

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $4.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.00</font>, BB calls $3.00,

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $10.5 )
Hero checks, BB checks,

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $10.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to 20.0</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 44.75</font>, BB calls $24.75,

Final Pot: $97.00

Results:
Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB has T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Outcome: BB wins $97.00

Spurious 11-19-2007 10:07 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $10
Hero (CO): $10.75
BTN: $16.95
SB: $6.05
BB: $10.95

UTG posts $0.10
Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $4 and is All-In

Turn: ($20.15) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($20.15) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $20.15 Pot ($1 Rake)
UTG showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON $19.15 (+$9.15 NET)
Hero mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$10 NET)


why cant he have AQ ?

Spurious 11-19-2007 10:34 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i suck at playing LAG :/

monkover 11-19-2007 10:34 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
well against some villains i´m ot happy to get it in here but i guess at 10nl you have to 4bet ai

Wilpro 11-19-2007 10:44 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Just started playing stars again, 2 coolers in first 100 hands, KK &lt; AA and Set over set, i start nit up because i am venting, everyone calls every continuation bet... Then end the session with me push 4betting QQ preflop and running into AA again lol.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6681/lolzsg9.jpg

Would this be classified as a rock? Was also my first time 8 tableing, usually play 4 to 6.

ShipitFMA 11-19-2007 10:51 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
um, no you're a dirtyyyyy nit

Wilpro 11-19-2007 10:58 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
So many clicky clicks i dont have time to raise the crap preflop :&lt;

munkey 11-19-2007 11:36 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
thats the thing. im so lazy my sessions do end up being like every 3 days

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Playing shorter sessions/less hands over a longer period means a takes longer for skill &gt;&gt;&gt; variance so it can feel worse than it really is than if your playing lots.

e.g. play 500 for 3 days to robusto or robusto 1.5k hds in 1 day -which makes you feel 'worse' over period?

I use 'worse' cuz really as long as you make decent decisions then it doesn't rly matter what the results.

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um, no you're a dirtyyyyy nit



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If the NIT gets the monies mooowaahhh [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BTW ShipitFMA I'm crossing my fingers for a hawt christmas GTgirl avatar from u...

fozzy71 11-19-2007 12:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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So many clicky clicks i dont have time to raise the crap preflop :&lt;

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BetPot?

I also find Stars too be A LOT quicker than FT. I used to 6-table at FT, and now at Stars I have limited myself to 4-tables. I was feeling rushed playing 6-tables of Stars, which would irritate/tilt me.

Of course part of the problem may be that my ADHD usually has me browsing 2+2 while 4-6 tabling. It can be annoying to have to raise my AA, while posting in the brew at the same time. 4-tabling allows me a corner of my screen for a web browser. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

derosnec 11-19-2007 12:20 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

all november long.

Nemesis69 11-19-2007 12:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

all november long.

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standard [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Spurious 11-19-2007 01:03 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

win $4 with top set. lose $50 to cooler/suckout

all november long.

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just lost 2 stacks within 6hands or something.
one A2 &lt; 76 on 345 board
and KQ &lt; AA on Kxxxx board, he c/c down from SB


oh yeah, 5BIs down for today

Gelford 11-19-2007 01:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I found my recent leak ... below 200NL people do not bluff raise you very often nor do they 3bet AA always.


No wonder my handreading has been the suxors lately.

derosnec 11-19-2007 01:18 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
below 200NL people do not bluff raise you very often

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shocking [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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