Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

990 games 0.040 secs 24,750 games/sec

Board: Qh 6h 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.202% 50.20% 00.00% 497 0.00 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 49.798% 49.80% 00.00% 493 0.00 { KhQs }


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Was pretty tilted push i guess, knew i would lose coinflip when i saw he had heart. Maybe it's the nagative energy making me lose so much, not sure.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

I haven't been here for a bit, but thought I would drop in for a brief moment to brag/offer encouragement.

On August 26th of this year, I had dropped from a roll of about $1500 at the start of the month to about $110 and was about to give it all up. Luckily I thought I would give the sats to the Sunday Million and Sunday 100k a try and make one last go at becoming a winning player. I won a few and sold the T$ for $670 which was basically the same as getting a little over 20% rakeback for all of the rake I had paid up to that date in one lump sum. I then reread PNL and NLTAP and dove back into 25NL intent on grinding it out and working hard on improving my game.

As of the end of today's session I have $4000 in my roll and tomorrow I take my first shot at 200NL. Not bad for being close to busto less than three months ago.

The point of this is to let all of you guys here who are being roughed up by downswings or are having trouble getting yourself beyond being a shade better than break even that if you take a deep breath and work on it, it will happen. You just have to focus and keep the faith.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

sean what helped u turn it around the most? session reviews? coaching? books? etc.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

If NLHE stopped after the turn, and there was no such thing as a river, i would be a serious winner. Maybe thats where i am going wrong, playing the wrong game.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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sean what helped u turn it around the most? session reviews? coaching? books? etc.

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I think that what did it the most was a combination of session reviews and the knowledge available in books and these forums. Really, almost everything you need to learn is here for the taking, the actual difficult part is tracking down what you need to do to improve and then diligently applying it. The session reviews let you find the habits in your game that lose you money, either by getting it in while behind or failing to get it in when doing so will win you money. The next part after this is finding out what the best way to solve these habitual mistakes are and disciplining yourself enough to make the changes. You would be surprised what you can gain from simply taking one night every month and rereading every single last item in the uNL and SSNL stickies. I would also suggest every couple of months taking the time to reread any NL Hold 'Em books that you have. In both these situations things that seemed completely inconsequential to you the last time you read the information are suddenly very applicable to a problem you find yourself constantly confronted with now.

I've not had any coaching yet, but plan on getting some in the next week or so. I think that outside opinions help tremendously.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I'm back to uNL suckas! Mainly because tourney variance sucks , as does triple draw and 5cd. Also I have a bet with a friend who thinks I can't 24-table 5nl for fifteen minutes a week or so from now, without timing out.

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umm easy, just fold every hand? that still counts

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yeah but the bet isnt for like 1k, it's for dinner, still prob worth folding every hand

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

i agree. that essential sticky is great. i have read everything on there three times at least. session reviews are the bomb too. I go through all my stuff after every session. slowly but surely i am making less and less mistakes across the board.

my biggest problem now is getting the max in the thin spots when I know I am good.

for those that don't know i have had a rough go at nl25 over the last 23k hands. I am beating it for like 2.45PTBB mostly due to poor game selection then changing how aggressive i am postflop. finally over the last 11k hands things are ironing out and I have a decent 5.15PTBB. Had a few really thin spots went my way i would be up a lot more but w/e. over my last 11.8k hands where things are ironing out my biggest losing hand is AA and 99 for two buyins each. followed by 98s and J9s for a buyin each.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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i agree. that essential sticky is great. i have read everything on there three times at least. session reviews are the bomb too. I go through all my stuff after every session. slowly but surely i am making less and less mistakes across the board.

my biggest problem now is getting the max in the thin spots when I know I am good.

for those that don't know i have had a rough go at nl25 over the last 23k hands. I am beating it for like 2.45PTBB mostly due to poor game selection then changing how aggressive i am postflop. finally over the last 11k hands things are ironing out and I have a decent 5.15PTBB. Had a few really thin spots went my way i would be up a lot more but w/e. over my last 11.8k hands where things are ironing out my biggest losing hand is AA and 99 for two buyins each. followed by 98s and J9s for a buyin each.

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Yeah, I hadn't read these for a while and decided to go through them again after 20k hands of break-even at 100NL. Suddenly I was like "so that is how I should handle that" in a lot of circumstances. Once you have one set of problems out of the way, problems that were there but never caught your attention jump right out at you. This is why I really think that they should be reread once a month.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Heh, got minraised on flop with an overpair (me) and shoved it. Two clubs on board. I have none. Club on turn. Club on river. I went on tilt for a second then I got shipped the pot. Sign of good things to come? [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time. They never ever call with AQ or JJ. It is always 100% AK,AA,KK. I definitely need to stop doing it cause I always lose a damn buyin. Much better to just call them PF if you in position and go from there I think. At least then if an A or K hits you can get away from it.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Heh, got minraised on flop with an overpair (me) and shoved it. Two clubs on board. I have none. Club on turn. Club on river. I went on tilt for a second then I got shipped the pot. Sign of good things to come? [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] those situations. You've already convinced yourself for a brief moment that you've lost, and then you win. It's like losing a pot and seeing your stack size go up. You think, "WTF?" [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time. They never ever call with AQ or JJ. It is always 100% AK,AA,KK. I definitely need to stop doing it cause I always lose a damn buyin. Much better to just call them PF if you in position and go from there I think. At least then if an A hits you represent a pair of aces and get him to fold KK .

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Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]I always 4bet allin. Unless playing reallllllly deep. edit: Not with QQ, or well I do for sure, but in general 4bet=shove.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time. They never ever call with AQ or JJ. It is always 100% AK,AA,KK. I definitely need to stop doing it cause I always lose a damn buyin. Much better to just call them PF if you in position and go from there I think. At least then if an A hits you represent a pair of aces and get him to fold KK .

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i should really do more of that.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]I always 4bet allin. Unless playing reallllllly deep. edit: Not with QQ, or well I do for sure, but in general 4bet=shove.

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yeah what i meant. fourbetting AI with QQ+ and Ak. i just think against some of these ~5% 3betters i should maybe make it AA,KK,AK. However when I four bet to like 7 with a SC they fold so i guess i variance has been good to me somewhat. like tonight i raise OTB with QQ, like third time i raise PF in a row dude in BB threebets it and hud saying he threebets about 6% of time over 1500 hands and I think ok thats useless cause he just saw me raise like 3-4 hands in a row and i playing like 35/28 so he probably 3betting light so I'll just shove and he will call lighter. lol wrong. KK gg.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Should i get out of bed and play some poker soon?

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Post to show off hot new avatar IMO.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Should i get out of bed and play some poker soon?

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The answer is always yes, unless you haven't recovered from the night before.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Post to show off hot new avatar IMO.

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Llama tested. Mother approved.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Should i get out of bed and play some poker soon?

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The answer is always yes, unless you haven't recovered from the night before.

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I'm not too sure, I havn't stood up yet [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Yes, my location is an accurate countdown from 30k hands this month.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

I need motivation to put in hands. So I am going to issue myself a hand challenge.

The only hands that shall count towards my total will have been played from Thursday 15th 12:00am to Thursday the 22nd 11:59pm pacific time. I am not allowed to play over 9 tables at one time to "catch up." The person selected will be given updates every 5,000 hands or so on my progress either by pm or aim. Any monies shipped will be done so by Stars, so you must have a Stars account to qualify.

If I do not play at least 20,000 hands, I will ship $50 to selected person.

If I play 20,000 but less than 25,000 hands by the same time period, I will ship $25 to that person.

If I meet the 25,000 hand goal, then I will ship $5 on the grounds that that person must immediately flip one time with me for the $5 I just shipped. The flip will be either nlhe or nlomaha, the person selected will decide.


The person I will ship to is the first person to respond with the correct answer to my trivia question:

What is the common name of the only bear native to South America?



gogogogogogogogo

Edit: Sean Fraley answered correctly first

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]I always 4bet allin. Unless playing reallllllly deep. edit: Not with QQ, or well I do for sure, but in general 4bet=shove.

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yeah what i meant. fourbetting AI with QQ+ and Ak. i just think against some of these ~5% 3betters i should maybe make it AA,KK,AK. However when I four bet to like 7 with a SC they fold so i guess i variance has been good to me somewhat. like tonight i raise OTB with QQ, like third time i raise PF in a row dude in BB threebets it and hud saying he threebets about 6% of time over 1500 hands and I think ok thats useless cause he just saw me raise like 3-4 hands in a row and i playing like 35/28 so he probably 3betting light so I'll just shove and he will call lighter. lol wrong. KK gg.

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I just PokerStoved this, and QQ is ~40% to win if opponents range a KK+, AKs, AKo. I think that there are a decent number of situations where when the 3-bet by villain is large, villain has less than a full stack, or villain makes a large enough limp-reraise after hero made a big initial raise (think a limp-reraise after hero raises after a number of limpers), or some combination of these that 4-bet shoving will be +EV.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Yes, my location is an accurate countdown from 30k hands this month.

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I've played as many hands today as you've played this month.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I need motivation to put in hands. So I am going to issue myself a hand challenge.

The only hands that shall count towards my total will have been played from Thursday 15th 12:00am to Thursday the 22nd 11:59pm pacific time. I am not allowed to play over 9 tables at one time to "catch up." The person selected will be given updates every 5,000 hands or so on my progress either by pm or aim. Any monies shipped will be done so by Stars, so you must have a Stars account to qualify.

If I do not play at least 20,000 hands, I will ship $50 to selected person.

If I play 20,000 but less than 25,000 hands by the same time period, I will ship $25 to that person.

If I meet the 25,000 hand goal, then I will ship $5 on the grounds that that person must immediately flip one time with me for the $5 I just shipped. The flip will be either nlhe or nlomaha, the person selected will decide.


The person I will ship to is the first person to respond with the correct answer to my trivia question:

What is the common name of the only bear native to South America?



gogogogogogogogo

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Spectacled Bear

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

the grizzly bear

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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i agree. that essential sticky is great. i have read everything on there three times at least. session reviews are the bomb too. I go through all my stuff after every session. slowly but surely i am making less and less mistakes across the board.

my biggest problem now is getting the max in the thin spots when I know I am good.

for those that don't know i have had a rough go at nl25 over the last 23k hands. I am beating it for like 2.45PTBB mostly due to poor game selection then changing how aggressive i am postflop. finally over the last 11k hands things are ironing out and I have a decent 5.15PTBB. Had a few really thin spots went my way i would be up a lot more but w/e. over my last 11.8k hands where things are ironing out my biggest losing hand is AA and 99 for two buyins each. followed by 98s and J9s for a buyin each.

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Nice recovery, Mr_Pathetic. I am on a 7K breakeven and I am definitely looking for leaks in my game but most of the time it's my own fault where I tilt or do things in spite -- the opposite of what common sense is telling me to do. BTW, you were at a couple of my tables today so I assume you are getting better at following fish. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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The person I will ship to is the first person to respond with the correct answer to my trivia question:

What is the common name of the only bear native to South America?



gogogogogogogogo

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spectacled bear or ucumari

ldo

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

google-tards

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the grizzly bear

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FMA:

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Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

i am doing better in the game selection department although sometimes i get impatient with the waiting lists and just jump on an open seat. but so far i am getting better in that aspect. i been trying to datamine 16 tables and pick out 6 to wait list on and then take notes on what i see going on while waiting on the seats so i already have some reads about how they play with others so i will hopefully know how they are adjusting to me.

Edit: also I am a 26yo living with my parents after getting a masters trying to play this poker for a living lol. will be interesting to see my progress as i attempt to gradually increase my bills as i hopefully move up the ladder. i can't even count how many times i've said i was going to quit and go sell insurance or some other gig till i find a local govt job.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I need motivation to put in hands. So I am going to issue myself a hand challenge.

The only hands that shall count towards my total will have been played from Thursday 15th 12:00am to Thursday the 22nd 11:59pm pacific time. I am not allowed to play over 9 tables at one time to "catch up." The person selected will be given updates every 5,000 hands or so on my progress either by pm or aim. Any monies shipped will be done so by Stars, so you must have a Stars account to qualify.

If I do not play at least 20,000 hands, I will ship $50 to selected person.

If I play 20,000 but less than 25,000 hands by the same time period, I will ship $25 to that person.

If I meet the 25,000 hand goal, then I will ship $5 on the grounds that that person must immediately flip one time with me for the $5 I just shipped. The flip will be either nlhe or nlomaha, the person selected will decide.


The person I will ship to is the first person to respond with the correct answer to my trivia question:

What is the common name of the only bear native to South America?



gogogogogogogogo

Edit: Sean Fraley answered correctly first

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The Spectacled Bear (Tremarctos ornatus), also known as the Andean Bear.


Edit: Nuts.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

I love these 20PTBB/100 hand days. Man November is going just so hot for me so far.




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Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

I've got direct position on a 60/3/1 at NL50 and we are both 300bbs+ deep. fingers crossed.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I've got direct position on a 60/3/1 at NL50 and we are both 300bbs+ deep. fingers crossed.

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Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I love these 20PTBB/100 hand days. Man November is going just so hot for me so far.




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[/ QUOTE ]christ dude please stop playin and move to lotto ticket buy for the remainder of the month. if i ran like god i would do the same. so sick

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

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I've got direct position on a 60/3/1 at NL50 and we are both 300bbs+ deep. fingers crossed.

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didnt go so well. my set of 99s lost to his rivered Q2 flush. my TPTK lost to his rivered flush. embrace the variance.

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

poor guy

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $32.25
SB: $24.75
BB: $14.85
UTG: $20.80
Hero (MP): $57.70
CO: $27.85

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.80</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.55

Flop: ($8.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.70</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $20.95 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $15.25

Turn: ($50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $50 Pot ($2.45 Rake)
SB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$24.75 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $47.55 (+$22.80 NET)