Bad beat or bad move??
 

hey guys,

this was a crazy $2 HU SnG where i lost second hand. i'm wondering if this was a bad beat or stupid call by me

Full Tilt Poker Game #1823193394: $2 + $0.15 Heads Up Sit & Go (13536914), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:33:41 ET - 2007/02/18
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeepAttack [Jd 3h]
greeny01 raises to 1,500, and is all in
DeepAttack folds
Uncalled bet of 1,480 returned to greeny01
greeny01 mucks
greeny01 wins the pot (40)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 40 | Rake 0
Seat 1: DeepAttack (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: greeny01 (small blind) collected (40), mucked



Full Tilt Poker Game #1823194402: $2 + $0.15 Heads Up Sit & Go (13536914), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:33:51 ET - 2007/02/18
Seat 1: DeepAttack (1,480)
Seat 2: greeny01 (1,520)
DeepAttack posts the small blind of 10
greeny01 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeepAttack [Tc Kc]
DeepAttack raises to 60
greeny01 raises to 1,520, and is all in
DeepAttack calls 1,420, and is all in
greeny01 shows [Qs Qd]
DeepAttack shows [Tc Kc]
Uncalled bet of 40 returned to greeny01
*** FLOP *** [7c Kh 8c]
*** TURN *** [7c Kh 8c] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [7c Kh 8c Ks] [Qc]
greeny01 shows a full house, Queens full of Kings
DeepAttack shows a flush, King high
greeny01 wins the pot (2,960) with a full house, Queens full of Kings
DeepAttack: omfg
DeepAttack stands up
greeny01 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,960 | Rake 0
Board: [7c Kh 8c Ks Qc]
Seat 1: DeepAttack (small blind) showed [Tc Kc] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 2: greeny01 (big blind) showed [Qs Qd] and won (2,960) with a full house, Queens full of Kings

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

I'd say it's a bad call. Second hand into a game, you can't have a good enough read to call this.

Edit: It can't be a bad beat, you got it in as a significant dog and lost.

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

brillant call. the open push just screams weakness. I'd say your good enougth to move up to the $16 and $27 turbos.

Seriously, fold preflop.

If no one raises, fold preflop, don't limp.

In fact at this blind level never play KT suited or offsuit from anything other than the blinds, and not for a raise.

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

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brillant call. the open push just screams weakness. I'd say your good enougth to move up to the $16 and $27 turbos.

Seriously, fold preflop.

If no one raises, fold preflop, don't limp.

In fact at this blind level never play KT suited or offsuit from anything other than the blinds, and not for a raise.

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At what point will he not be in the blinds in this sns?

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

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At what point will he not be in the blinds in this sns?

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Ah.. That's a very good point. I'm an idiot. But I still wouldn't call an all in with KT.

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

the reason i posted this is because there are alot of lunatics at these micro levels and playing this guy HU looked like he was just looking for a quick coinflip situation, so i gave him credit for the first hand but didnt think he would get lucky enough to get QQ on his 2nd allin

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

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the reason i posted this is because there are alot of lunatics at these micro levels and playing this guy HU looked like he was just looking for a quick coinflip situation, so i gave him credit for the first hand but didnt think he would get lucky enough to get QQ on his 2nd allin

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Normally I'd call QQ+, but if he's a maniac you can open a little more but not much, certainly not KT.

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

KT is probably ahead of his range, but this is a HU sng and the blinds are tiny right now. wait till you are much much farther ahead of his range to call here. id say AJ+,99+ at this point, widening as the blinds go up.

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

worst call i have seen LOL

Re: Bad beat or bad move??
 

This isn't a good move. HU with the blind to stack ratio as it is, you shouldn't be calling this big a reraise unless you have QQ-AA. I would even hard a hard time calling with AKs, mostly because I like to play postflop poker.