JJ, passive, line check
 

pfr is 25/15
3bet is 22/20 and 3bets light

$0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players


Hero (BB): $115.05
UTG: $97
CO: $100
BTN: $147.30
SB: $99

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30</font>, CO calls $26, BTN folds

Flop: ($72.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($72.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $70 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

I just cold call pf.
As played imo it's fold

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

I dont have set value assuming 100bb.
i dont like high flops, and I dont like low flops
anyone folding preflop?

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

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I dont have set value assuming 100bb.
i dont like high flops, and I dont like low flops
anyone folding preflop?

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Absolutely no fold preflop, the 4 bet is fine if he 3 bets light...and he is on the button. I think I lead the flop. As played, he could have clubs, but this flop hits all over his range...easy fold.

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

I still like a call PF or if you 4bet def have to get it in for a PSB on that board, tons of draws/combo draws out there that we are ahead of and he has to go with, I def shove flop, or if you're feelin frisky bet like 1/2 pot call all in I dont think it makes a difference

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

This is actually a pretty crappy spot in general and I don't think there is one single line that is best. I'd really have to be there at the table with specific reads/history/etc.

But the flop is pretty awful for you, so I'd just give up.

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

i'd lead the flop... why check..

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

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i'd lead the flop... why check..

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Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

Raise PF for the reasons you've stated, although i probably make it very slightly bigger, like $33-35.

Against a villain who doesn't 3bet light a fold PF is fine, but in this case you can't fold, so 4bet-call.

Push flop, this is by no means a bad flop for you. there's value to be had from TT and a few draws.

Re: JJ, passive, line check
 

You say he 3 bets lite yet you check this flop [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
make a cb and if he has you, you have 4 to possibly 6 outs for the suckout
whats his 3 betting range
AJ+,77+,67s+, well if it was something like that you have 55% equity on the flop

as played i hate calling and i hate folding, you have checked twice saying to him you are feeling weak,
he doesn't need a hand here, also why would he check the flop with a pair?