Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

Villain just sat down about an orbit ago, no history, total unknown to me.. What's your river line? Anything about the rest of the hand?

Everest Poker Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($95.50) (Hero)
CO ($114.30)
Button ($97.80)
SB ($224.00)
BB ($129.20)
MP2 ($87.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>,

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 11.5BB )
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>,

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 29.5BB )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, CO calls,

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 75.5BB )
Hero?

Re: Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

i c/c here more often then value betting

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i c/c here more often then value betting

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this makes no sense

Re: Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

? what makes no sense about it... do u know what a value bet is?

Re: Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

c/c sucks

I prob just bet 40 and give him the rest if he raises, praying he has AT. Eh, maybe I shove.

Re: Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

bet, c/c sux, i guess fold is he shoves...meh

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bet, c/c sux, i guess fold is he shoves...meh

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We can't fold if he shoves because we would be getting like million to one odds. So I guess bet/call. Checking is just too weak, because he could have so many other hands than the flush.

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true, i'm being dumb and not reading stack sizes properly

Re: Value bet flushy river w/set?
 

Check/call is the worst possible line on the river.

I like a value bet of around 60% pot, and crying call if he shoves.

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Any significant bet on the river will put you all-in so imo you have two choices: check/fold or shove on the river.

What would I do? I would check/fold.

The turn bet was pretty large yet he just calls, like he fears nothing. Why? He's displaying strength through his calls so it's either a call bluff (to the river..?) or he's actually got a good hand. I say assume he's rational and lay down the hand when facing a large river bet. How often are we ahead here? If he checks it down then all the better. The pot is a good size.

I have one question though - how did the villain buy in for more than $100 at the .50/$1 level? You said he hasn't made any moves yet he is above $100. What gives?