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Subfallen 09-24-2007 01:23 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
You need to be super aggressive---and he needs to know it---to raise this turn profitably I think. He will likely let go of AK without any trouble.

3-bet preflop?

Unknown Soldier 09-24-2007 06:38 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
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go into c/c mode. if hes nitty 150 bbs deep this is the absolute bottom of his stack off range. and its close. also when he 3bets the turn u can prob fold.

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i have a feeling that's losing value. (the c/c part)

AAismyfriend 09-24-2007 07:24 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
I think you should fold the turn as played.....what are you hoping to see here?

blankoblanco 09-24-2007 07:49 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
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I think you should fold the turn as played.....what are you hoping to see here?

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i guess praying to see an overplayed AJ? literally the only thing i can see. the more i look at it, the turn actually seems like an easy fold (but definitely not easy to make in the situation yourself, in real time).

MATT111 09-24-2007 08:10 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
I like leading the turn. Him checking behind would be really terrible on this board and we hardly get more value out of a lot of hands by c/raising anyway. If he raises we can call and see a river (sometimes hitting a 4-outer), then make a decision.

ipokeder 09-24-2007 08:22 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
this is standard and folding the turn is terrible without a more meaningful read than "17/13"

Yeti 09-24-2007 08:24 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
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this is standard and folding the turn is terrible without a more meaningful read than "17/13"

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it isn't

DTD 09-24-2007 08:40 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
Sounds like there is an OK but not great read on villian. Plenty of 17/13 types never even show up with AJ, let alone something like AK or a draw, so you are looking at AA,JJ just about every single time. On the other hand, you only have 200 hands so it's really hard to get away from this. (I'd just lead the turn tbh, but whatever you do you won't get a showdown by the looks of it without sticking them all in.)

blankoblanco 09-24-2007 08:41 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
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this is standard and folding the turn is terrible without a more meaningful read than "17/13"

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please tell what you're expecting to see after he 3bets turn? to say folding the turn here is "terrible" is ridiculous. i guess you must just get "coolered" a lot? seriously, tell me what the hell he has

GotThePowR 09-24-2007 08:51 AM

Re: top 2 150 deep against nittish player
 
I think its 44, JJ, KT too many times, i would fold this :/


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