Overpair garbage bla bla sunday mill
 

Stars mil, like 2 mins in. Edit: I haven't played with villain in like 9 months, but I remember him as a pretty tough 10/20 6m player, who prob knows who I am.

PokerStars Game #11451536890: Tournament #57270953, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (25/50) - 2007/08/12 - 16:32:19 (ET)
Table '57270953 561' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: supernova9 (10000 in chips)
Seat 2: kidd2128 (10000 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: simmsux (9975 in chips)
Seat 4: AndersBr (9925 in chips)
Seat 5: DO IT LEE (9925 in chips)
Seat 6: Rikko Rich (9950 in chips)
Seat 7: Taknapotin (10150 in chips)
Seat 8: jjuunn (10075 in chips)
Seat 9: TAZMAN3 (10000 in chips)
Rikko Rich: posts small blind 25
Taknapotin: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to supernova9 [Qc Qd]
jjuunn: folds
TAZMAN3: folds
supernova9: raises 125 to 175
kidd2128: folds
simmsux: folds
AndersBr: folds
DO IT LEE: calls 175
Rikko Rich: folds
Taknapotin: calls 125
*** FLOP *** [3c 2c 6d]
Taknapotin: checks
supernova9: bets 425
DO IT LEE: folds
Taknapotin: raises 1225 to 1650
supernova9:

Re: Overpair garbage bla bla sunday mill
 

Villian is JCarver

Re: Overpair garbage bla bla sunday mill
 

Obviously a tought spot. Did you try looking into his soul? I'm inclined to call and see what the turn brings because I hate folding, but all options seem equally unappealing here.

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Villian is JCarver

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oh ok, that still means nothing to me though, except now I have played w/ him a couple more times and i still dont know too much about how he plays.

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I had almost this exact hand come up yesterday in Event 1 vs. some guy I could tell didn't suck (JJ, 653 2 club board, UTG+1 HU vs. his BB.)

I called, he bet 2/3 pot on the Qx turn, I'm like "meh, there's a river bet coming up that I'm not calling" and folded.

Shaundeeb thought I should just muck the flop FWIW and I agree that if the flop decision is close it's only because he sometimes gives up with worse hands on the turn.

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If board didn't have flush draw i could fairly easily fold this flop. With flush draw out there i need to know, does he keep betting clubs on the turn? If you think he 2 barrels it i give up now, if he checks back i may call flop.

OBV doesn't sound like you have that kind of information available, idk, people have been bluffing me a lot lately, i prolly station flop and become a believer after that.

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If board didn't have flush draw i could fairly easily fold this flop. With flush draw out there i need to know, does he keep betting clubs on the turn? If you think he 2 barrels it i give up now, if he checks back i may call flop.

OBV doesn't sound like you have that kind of information available, idk, people have been bluffing me a lot lately, i prolly station flop and become a believer after that.

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by become a believer you mean ud fold to a turn 2nd barrel?

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Yea, i think so.

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Doesn't this make us really exploitable if we fold overpairs to check raises on low flops?

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Doesn't this make us really exploitable if we fold overpairs to check raises on low flops?

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If we're playing this guy a [censored] load it does, not if its a rare instance.