flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

Opponent is a good aggressive player. If you fold, whats the highest flush you call with?

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+2: 3,985
MP1: 2,850
MP2: 3,015
CO: 2,925
Hero: 2,485
SB: 2,965
BB: 2,955
UTG: 2,865
UTG+1: 3,056

Pre-Flop: (45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to 85</font>, CO folds, Hero calls 85, 2 folds

Flop: (215) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets 145</font>, Hero calls 145

Turn: (505) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: (505) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 370</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to 2,785 and is All-In</font>

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

The lowest flush I'm calling with here is 52cc. If this guy has a bigger flush here, I think you're up against a superuser account because that is an unbelievably weird line to take on the river.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

hah im def not folding this as played

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

wat do u mean "as played"

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

i think vrs a good agressive opponent your dead here. Even agressive opponents if there good are very very unlikely unlikely to risk ther whole stack on a bluff, esp an overbet shove without a really good hand. Also if hes good he wouldnt be value betting on a c/r with worse. On top of that most mtt players arent really capable of c/r rivers as bluffs in general so id fold here. Also as an addition against the player u described i think a re raise pre is probably a better option than calling, but the difference is subtle

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

you have JT for all intents and purposes. i'm folding this unless i have a reason to think he's making a move.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

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wat do u mean "as played"

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i mean that neither of you has show any strength up till the river, he didn't 2 barrell his flushdraw when a good 2 barrell card hits, and he checks his high flush again on the river hoping you bet. its like he played this hand with the intention of only stacking a lower flush. On the other hand, thats a huge [censored] shove and bluffing here is weird. [censored] i dunno I probobly do fold

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

This is a bluff with the A of clubs from someone who plays too much PLO.

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

i dont think he shows up with anything but the nuts here

Re: flush vs big river raise in FTP 1k
 

your getting dangerously close to ignore, Todd