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stever1k 11-05-2007 04:14 PM

NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($3.60)
SB ($10)
BB ($14.55)
UTG ($23.80)
Hero ($11.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.7</font>, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.55) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, UTG calls $1.70.

Turn: ($6.55) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

River: ($10.55) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7</font>, Hero calls $6.55 (All-In).

Final Pot: $23.66

I guess this hand is somehow misplayed, because after the turn donkbet i should normally be beat, say up against AJ, AQ.

As I come from fixed limit (and switched to NL just a few weeks ago) i decided to simply (tilt-)calldown :-( also i had no read (6 hands or so...).

Doncabelero 11-05-2007 04:21 PM

Re: NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
raise more on the flop. and I personally prefer a tiny bigger raise preflop. I'd call the turn and river as well. very unlikely villain has a J.

alexDJI 11-05-2007 04:44 PM

Re: NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
Get it in on the turn?

bsball8806 11-05-2007 04:45 PM

Re: NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
pop it to .50 preflop. Then 4bet raise his stupid minbet.

Flop play is fine. Turn is ok, I guess raising forces out anything we have beat.

I don't know about the river. He's repping a very good hand. I don't know what we beat here (looks like just AQ). A 10 outflopped us, AJ rivered a full house, and the flush draw came. KQ made the straight. AA, 10 10, and 88 already had us crushed. This is a tough fold, imo/.

TTStrangler 11-05-2007 05:21 PM

Re: NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
I labored with this one too. I had something wrote out then hesitated cause I didn't know what to do with the river. Villain's line is very strange. Some type of read would really help here. His line pre flop is very strong, esp since he seems to be very passive post flop. I don't 4bet pre flop cause IME a limp/raise pre flop is usually a monster, so I'm proceeding very cautiously after just calling the 3bet.

I would raise the flop more, maybe his bet could have been some type of block bet with KK,QQ or something.

He donks the turn so weak you have to at least call, odds are really good.

The river is tough, his bet is actually a decent size, and his line has been pretty strong if you can disregard his previous bet sizing. This could just be a very passive Villain trying to induce someone to do the betting for him the whole time. His line is pretty confusing though. I guess I'd fold the river, but I sure wouldn't like it.

stever1k 11-05-2007 05:47 PM

Re: NL10 SH TPTK ont the flop vs. min3bet preflop
 
villain is unknown in this spot - he showed me KK and i was lucky, but i'd be more satisfied if played correct.

Call donk always stinks, i dont like this line :-(


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