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HobbyHorse 11-23-2007 04:16 PM

Question about Beating the Rake
 
This is just a quick question because the game I usually play in has recently changed its rake rates and I was curious about whether it was more (or less) profitable for me now. The game is a live $5/5 NL, quite loose, frequently passive, lots of straddlers. The rake is $5/half hour with any pots over $100 being raked $10 (it may be $20 for a pot over $200 - I'm not sure about that one).

The old rake structure was this:
As for the rake any pot $45 -$95=$5.00
$100-$249 =$10.00
$249 or more is capped at $25.00

The reason why I think this new structure may be less profitable for me is because I am forced to play tighter because the table is generally quite loose. Does anyone know if there is an equation of some sort that I could use to evaluate the effect of rake on my profitability?

Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions.

Poshua 11-23-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
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This is just a quick question because the game I usually play in has recently changed its rake rates and I was curious about whether it was more (or less) profitable for me now. The game is a live $5/5 NL, quite loose, frequently passive, lots of straddlers. The rake is $5/half hour with any pots over $100 being raked $10 (it may be $20 for a pot over $200 - I'm not sure about that one).

The old rake structure was this:
As for the rake any pot $45 -$95=$5.00
$100-$249 =$10.00
$249 or more is capped at $25.00

The reason why I think this new structure may be less profitable for me is because I am forced to play tighter because the table is generally quite loose. Does anyone know if there is an equation of some sort that I could use to evaluate the effect of rake on my profitability?

Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions.

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For each scenario, estimate the amount of rake that you would pay per hour, based on the number of pots you'd win and the rake from those pots. Add the time charge for the time charge scenario.

It's true that time charges are less favorable than rakes to tight players. However, if the new structure results in less total cash being taken off the table, you might be better off anyway.

Vinny80 11-23-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
[ QUOTE ]


The old rake structure was this:
As for the rake any pot $45 -$95=$5.00
$100-$249 =$10.00
$249 or more is capped at $25.00



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is it me or a rake structure like that is just crazy and unbeatable???

Milo 11-23-2007 06:57 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
I hope you at least get lube and a reach around.

SDone 11-23-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
That old rake is ridiculous.
Even this new rake structure sucks.

yogadude 11-24-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
You are being raped. There should be like a %5 cap regardless on the size of the pot. Do you think they rake a 20,000 pot 2grand in the big games?

gl

HobbyHorse 11-24-2007 09:33 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
Is the rake really that bad? I was told it was equal to other rake rates in private games in NYC...

sapol 11-24-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
Just because it is equal to some other place doesn't make it good.

Usagi_yo 11-24-2007 11:40 PM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
Uh, after two weeks of playing 8 hours a day of a rake structure like that, you probably could have flown to vegas and gotten a room for a week at the Orleans, plus payed for the $12 ($7+5 tip) cab rides to Wynn or Belagio.

bav 11-25-2007 12:57 AM

Re: Question about Beating the Rake
 
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Is the rake really that bad? I was told it was equal to other rake rates in private games in NYC...

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Yes, it's that bad.


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