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B Buddy 06-27-2006 05:38 PM

3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Comments on one or more of the following hands are appreciated.

1. Villain has been reraising me light and is generally pretty agro vs. me. Suggestions on alternate lines postflop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($2330)
Hero ($2000)
MP ($2048)
CO ($2062)
Button ($3455)
SB ($423)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $210</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $140.

Flop: ($450) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $325</font>, Hero calls $325.

Turn: ($1100) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($1100) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $800</font>,

2. Villain is a solid player &amp; pretty tight postflop. How much do you raise on the river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($789)
Hero ($2214)
Button ($3078)
SB ($1900)
BB ($3091)
UTG ($2000)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40, Button calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $99</font>, Hero calls $99, Button folds.

Turn: ($348) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($348) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $333</font>,


3. No read on preflop raiser – the flop bettor is solid – Alternate lines?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($5449.73)
SB ($2061)
BB ($2056)
UTG ($2276)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($2946.84)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2523)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $60</font>, MP calls $60, Hero calls $60, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($210) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $120</font>, Hero calls $120, UTG folds.

Turn: ($450) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $449</font>.

Final Pot: $899

O_Witty 06-27-2006 09:09 PM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
hand 1: you say he reraises you and is pretty aggro, yet you haven't given him the opportunity to raise you until river. however if you think there is no chance he will call a flop bet then i like a check-call, otherwise why not bet your set and check-raise turn. that would get you a little more money.

hand 2:can you raise anymore than to 800? i mean how tight is this guy?

hand3:what can you do but hope they catch or get aggressive?

Jeff W 06-27-2006 09:18 PM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
In hand 3 I'd check behind and hope they catch queens full, spike a pocket pair, a straight or maybe Aces and Queens. I don't think you get called very often. KQ or JT probably lead the turn.

HEK 06-27-2006 09:22 PM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
hand 1: Looks fine to me. I don't mind the turn check since he either has overs or overpair whereby he'll check the former to catch up and bet the latter to protect. River is good since AK/AQ won't usually bluff at it when you check. Tens/A9 may make a crying call and you will get called almost always by AJ/QQ+.

2. I make it $1100

3. I don't like full pot vs a solid player here. That K is a scare card making the straight. Bet less like $350.

MDMA 06-27-2006 09:39 PM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Jeff W, you have to account for the fact how often people check their hands over to B_Buddy, and they definately do that a lot given his image.

As for the hands, I'm w/ HEK here (I like them all), only I don't really mind the full pot on turn given his image in hand 3. I'd also consider pushing river in hand 1, unless you decide he's calling 800 much more often than 1500 w/ TT / a 9 and that that lower calling frequency outweighs the added value when getting called by checked-behind overpairs/AJ.

samoleus 06-28-2006 01:08 AM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Buddy, there are lots of different ways to play hand #1. as long as you mix up the various options, your line is fine.

Hand #2, I'd raise to about 1K.

Hand #3, I prefer checking back on the turn. your bet may blow off AQ type hands, and complete air might even be sucked into firing at the river given your show of weakness.

Nielsio 06-28-2006 01:20 AM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Hand 3: no-one will ever put you on quad nines if you raise on the flop. Your line is interesting if you float a lot; but I don't think he's calling as he will face a major tough river decision if he calls here (big pot, etc). So if you call the flop, I prefer a turn check behind.

EmpireMaker2 06-28-2006 01:21 AM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Why are any of these decesions hard?

TheWorstPlayer 06-28-2006 01:39 AM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
1. I c/r river
2. 700 more
3. I min-raise flop

spino1i 06-28-2006 03:51 AM

Re: 3 hands from yest. set, full, quads
 
Hand #1 I like it and would play the same.

Hand #2 I would raise to a lot.. like maybe 1100 to go or something. He's going to have a hard time putting you on a hand and will probably think its a bluff.

Hand #3 I call like you on flop. I dont like a raise because it looks obvious you have a Q beat then and we know he doesnt have an overpair (and prolly not even that good of a kicker on his Q). I would bet less on the turn. Half the pot maybe. A pot sized bet prices out all the draws which is not what you want here.. I like the idea of representing the possible float here.


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